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00:02:54,440 paradigms are so rooted in this material 58 00:02:58,270 --> 00:02:56,120 is a model that they just can't be 59 00:03:00,550 --> 00:02:58,280 accurate because we know there are 60 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:00,560 realms fields and forces beyond just 61 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:02,840 what we can see consciousness is not 62 00:03:06,940 --> 00:03:05,030 just an illusion of the brain ether is 63 00:03:10,180 --> 00:03:06,950 not just a fun word and magic is very 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:10,190 much real well when it comes to exciting 65 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:12,170 internally consistent models that 66 00:03:16,150 --> 00:03:14,030 incorporate such things there are many 67 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:16,160 bright minds circling around similar 68 00:03:21,250 --> 00:03:18,709 ideas but one that's been intriguing to 69 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:21,260 me is the hollow fractal graphic unified 70 00:03:25,090 --> 00:03:22,910 field theory of nessam 71 00:03:27,580 --> 00:03:25,100 I mean and the wide-reaching work of the 72 00:03:29,410 --> 00:03:27,590 resonance science foundation you might 73 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:29,420 remember a provocative show we did with 74 00:03:33,220 --> 00:03:31,370 Nasim not long ago but you should also 75 00:03:35,170 --> 00:03:33,230 be aware that during these quarantine 76 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:35,180 times they've made Anna seems unified 77 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:37,610 science course at the resonance Academy 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:39,590 completely free of charge just go to 79 00:03:45,310 --> 00:03:43,010 resonance science or to sign up and as 80 00:03:47,530 --> 00:03:45,320 any good model should the holo fractal 81 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:47,540 paradigm elegantly blends science and 82 00:03:53,140 --> 00:03:50,150 spirituality the principle of as above 83 00:03:54,910 --> 00:03:53,150 so below and reframes many aspects of 84 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:54,920 what we think we know in a much more 85 00:03:59,770 --> 00:03:57,920 holistic context given the current state 86 00:04:01,510 --> 00:03:59,780 of the world I figured it might be a 87 00:04:03,490 --> 00:04:01,520 good time to bring on the resonance 88 00:04:06,370 --> 00:04:03,500 science foundation's main molecular 89 00:04:08,410 --> 00:04:06,380 biologist William Brown William has 90 00:04:09,940 --> 00:04:08,420 worked in numerous laboratories across 91 00:04:11,530 --> 00:04:09,950 the country and has an extensive 92 00:04:14,290 --> 00:04:11,540 background in genetic and 93 00:04:16,180 --> 00:04:14,300 neurobiological research and theory he 94 00:04:18,490 --> 00:04:16,190 has a Bachelors of Science degree in 95 00:04:21,340 --> 00:04:18,500 cellular and molecular biology from 96 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:21,350 Northern Arizona University and a Master 97 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:23,600 of Science degree in applied recumbent 98 00:04:28,420 --> 00:04:26,330 DNA technology from New York University 99 00:04:30,460 --> 00:04:28,430 not only does he have some intriguing 100 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:30,470 things to say about the fingerprints of 101 00:04:34,810 --> 00:04:32,720 genetic manipulation in our alien-human 102 00:04:37,450 --> 00:04:34,820 hybrid DNA but he also does some 103 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:37,460 exciting work in applying holo fractal 104 00:04:41,620 --> 00:04:40,190 graphic principles to biological systems 105 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:41,630 which is just the sort of thing I 106 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:44,000 thought we could use so let's get into 107 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:46,310 it solving the hard problems left by an 108 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:48,800 incomplete scientific paradigm the alien 109 00:04:53,890 --> 00:04:51,470 DNA decoder himself William quantum 110 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:53,900 biology Brown welcome to the higher side 111 00:04:58,900 --> 00:04:56,630 oh thank you great it's great to be on 112 00:05:01,210 --> 00:04:58,910 with you yeah man thanks for doing this 113 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:01,220 I have found a lot of your work really 114 00:05:05,710 --> 00:05:03,740 interesting and as I kind of mentioned 115 00:05:07,900 --> 00:05:05,720 there in the intro when you have a 116 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:07,910 dominant scientific model that's 117 00:05:12,430 --> 00:05:10,460 inaccurate many of the ideas and 118 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:12,440 theories that come out of it are going 119 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:15,950 to be incorrect too and we have a world 120 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:18,320 worried about viruses and catching this 121 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:21,830 kovat 19 thing and at a minimum we have 122 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:24,560 to rethink the petrochemical model to 123 00:05:29,409 --> 00:05:27,470 solving disease and maybe it goes even 124 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:29,419 deeper than that but to get the ball 125 00:05:33,130 --> 00:05:31,370 rolling here when I have a guest who's 126 00:05:35,650 --> 00:05:33,140 gone through years of study in the 127 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:35,660 conventional system I'm also curious 128 00:05:39,310 --> 00:05:36,560 where it is 129 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:39,320 they realized something was off what can 130 00:05:44,050 --> 00:05:41,810 you say about your aha moment when did 131 00:05:46,330 --> 00:05:44,060 you realize mainstream biology was 132 00:05:53,310 --> 00:05:46,340 leaving a lot of important stuff off the 133 00:05:57,340 --> 00:05:53,320 table yeah it really was when the more 134 00:06:00,159 --> 00:05:57,350 materialistic theories mechanistic 135 00:06:04,210 --> 00:06:00,169 theories behind biology were being 136 00:06:06,430 --> 00:06:04,220 presented so early on in my 137 00:06:09,340 --> 00:06:06,440 undergraduate career you know I'm 138 00:06:13,150 --> 00:06:09,350 beginning to get into molecular biology 139 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,160 biochemistry learning how various 140 00:06:19,030 --> 00:06:15,440 enzymes and nano machines of the body 141 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:19,040 work and the predominant model being 142 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:22,100 presented at that time was such that you 143 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:23,840 know you've got enzymes that catalyze 144 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:25,850 reactions and you've got substrates that 145 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:28,880 are what they act on to produce you know 146 00:06:35,379 --> 00:06:31,490 products and that's why gods the 147 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:35,389 metabolism of the cell of your body and 148 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:38,410 everything from your DNA replication and 149 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:41,090 mitosis to make new cells and all of 150 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:43,550 that but Jo that was based on what's 151 00:06:48,990 --> 00:06:46,240 called like the lock and key mechanism 152 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:49,000 and it's this idea that these are like 153 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:53,650 donut balls on a table and they instruct 154 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:55,690 randomly and we just kind of randomly 155 00:07:00,839 --> 00:06:58,090 bouncing around and every now and then 156 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:00,849 you get the right substrate that hits 157 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:04,300 the right enzyme and when that happens 158 00:07:07,559 --> 00:07:06,370 the reaction takes place but that's 159 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:07,569 completely random 160 00:07:12,910 --> 00:07:09,910 there's no orchestration to that or 161 00:07:15,580 --> 00:07:12,920 coordination to that at all 162 00:07:18,310 --> 00:07:15,590 and also the recognition of that enzyme 163 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:18,320 by the substrate that just happens that 164 00:07:24,940 --> 00:07:20,810 the substrate hits at just the right 165 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:24,950 angle and just the right part so it's 166 00:07:29,340 --> 00:07:27,470 like a lock-and-key and it fits but 167 00:07:32,890 --> 00:07:29,350 again that's a random orientation 168 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:32,900 because if you know there's only one of 169 00:07:37,690 --> 00:07:35,210 a few orientations that that lock and 170 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:37,700 key is going to fit together 171 00:07:42,730 --> 00:07:40,250 so you know that was extremely 172 00:07:45,980 --> 00:07:42,740 problematic for me because if you take 173 00:07:50,029 --> 00:07:45,990 prison side DNA replication 174 00:07:52,129 --> 00:07:50,039 the DNA polymerase enzyme that makes the 175 00:07:55,939 --> 00:07:52,139 new strand of DNA from the template 176 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:55,949 string it synthesizes a thousand 177 00:08:03,100 --> 00:07:58,530 nucleotides a second 178 00:08:07,310 --> 00:08:03,110 with error rate of like 0.01% or smaller 179 00:08:08,540 --> 00:08:07,320 so it can put together a thousand 180 00:08:13,010 --> 00:08:08,550 nucleotides and there's four different 181 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:13,020 nucleotides in one second how is that 182 00:08:19,460 --> 00:08:16,410 occurring via a random collision because 183 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:19,470 even if you had with these nucleotides 184 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:21,060 are randomly colliding with the 185 00:08:26,870 --> 00:08:23,490 polymerase enzyme it has to be the right 186 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:26,880 nucleotide of those 104 it has to be in 187 00:08:31,820 --> 00:08:28,800 the exact right orientation for that 188 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:31,830 lock and key mechanism to work and that 189 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:34,830 just if you were to do the mathematics 190 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:37,289 and you know the pump abilities the 191 00:08:42,589 --> 00:08:40,110 statistics all of that it doesn't add up 192 00:08:46,460 --> 00:08:42,599 at all it's impossible but that's 193 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:46,470 happening via the paradigm that was 194 00:08:52,530 --> 00:08:48,850 being presented at that time 195 00:08:56,910 --> 00:08:52,540 now the problem with that paradigm is 196 00:09:00,150 --> 00:08:56,920 that it's based on physics Newtonian 197 00:09:03,660 --> 00:09:00,160 physics is basically a four hundred year 198 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:03,670 old model of physics you know it's a 199 00:09:08,010 --> 00:09:05,250 little bit dated 200 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:08,020 it's not even caught up yet to 19th 201 00:09:15,690 --> 00:09:12,190 century physics with like Maxwell and 202 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:15,700 electro magnetics meant 20th century 203 00:09:21,300 --> 00:09:18,370 physics with electrodynamics and quantum 204 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:21,310 mechanics that just doesn't even enter 205 00:09:26,910 --> 00:09:23,890 into the equation at all you know it's a 206 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:26,920 purely deterministic kind of Newtonian 207 00:09:36,180 --> 00:09:31,330 clockwork type model it doesn't explain 208 00:09:38,190 --> 00:09:36,190 the Bayeux dynamics and all you know 209 00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:38,200 that was kind of the first ship in the 210 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:42,190 armor but then later on when I was doing 211 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:44,260 research and investigations into 212 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:47,700 genetics and neurobiology neurogenetics 213 00:09:55,980 --> 00:09:51,310 you know the state of affairs with 214 00:09:59,270 --> 00:09:55,990 explaining how DNA produces an organism 215 00:10:02,700 --> 00:09:59,280 know going from genotype to phenotype 216 00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:02,710 that was completely unknown how that's 217 00:10:08,790 --> 00:10:06,150 occurring and it's still largely unknown 218 00:10:11,310 --> 00:10:08,800 how that occurs 219 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:11,320 and then consciousness is probably the 220 00:10:20,050 --> 00:10:16,330 biggest one because there is no 221 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:20,060 materialistic mechanistic model that can 222 00:10:27,410 --> 00:10:24,550 explain the phenomenon of consciousness 223 00:10:30,410 --> 00:10:27,420 and certainly that predominant period on 224 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:30,420 today the neuro computational model 225 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:33,810 doesn't come anywhere close to 226 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:36,570 explaining the hard problem of 227 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:38,730 consciousness 228 00:10:43,769 --> 00:10:41,050 mm-hmm-hmm yeah that is a great 229 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:43,779 breakdown of some of the major flaws in 230 00:10:48,090 --> 00:10:46,089 our current paradigm and of course I'm 231 00:10:50,329 --> 00:10:48,100 no expert but I do try to tell people 232 00:10:53,340 --> 00:10:50,339 like if you look at the history of 233 00:10:55,710 --> 00:10:53,350 Medicine it's really not that old and 234 00:10:58,079 --> 00:10:55,720 they were doing some pretty dark and 235 00:11:00,600 --> 00:10:58,089 twisted stuff in the early stages of 236 00:11:02,460 --> 00:11:00,610 Medicine and treating things that 237 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:02,470 probably could have used a scalpel with 238 00:11:08,069 --> 00:11:05,649 a giant sledgehammer and just all kinds 239 00:11:10,110 --> 00:11:08,079 of mechanical kinds of ways of dealing 240 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:10,120 with the body leaving out consciousness 241 00:11:14,730 --> 00:11:11,920 leaving out the holistic system 242 00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:14,740 it's just bad philosophy applied to the 243 00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:16,360 body and we know now there's just so 244 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:18,880 many things about the body that do not 245 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:21,130 jive with this conventional paradigm but 246 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:24,300 in a time of panic like we've been in 247 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:27,700 people divert to the experts or who they 248 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:29,920 perceive as the experts and we end up 249 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:32,560 with this draconian clampdown system 250 00:11:38,010 --> 00:11:35,890 based off really faulty understanding of 251 00:11:40,410 --> 00:11:38,020 the body and health and wellness so it 252 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:40,420 is pretty wild and pretty pertinent to 253 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:42,880 these times and I guess I would ask of 254 00:11:47,310 --> 00:11:45,490 the alternatives available clearly you 255 00:11:49,889 --> 00:11:47,320 found in a seams theory to be the best 256 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:49,899 framework to work with can you talk to 257 00:11:55,019 --> 00:11:52,180 us about what you saw in it particularly 258 00:11:57,630 --> 00:11:55,029 in your areas of expertise that got you 259 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:57,640 onboard and working with the resonance 260 00:12:03,720 --> 00:11:59,920 science foundation as opposed to some 261 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:03,730 other alternative there so by the time I 262 00:12:11,310 --> 00:12:07,810 was doing my PhD research which actually 263 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:11,320 didn't complete the PhD I did about two 264 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:13,649 years before actually I joined now same 265 00:12:19,199 --> 00:12:16,079 because I saw there was better 266 00:12:23,189 --> 00:12:19,209 opportunity working with him and his 267 00:12:23,730 --> 00:12:23,199 theory to accomplish what I was thinking 268 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:23,740 to do 269 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:26,380 you know synthesize a more coherent 270 00:12:34,170 --> 00:12:30,010 understanding of the physics of the 271 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:34,180 biological system but even the PhD 272 00:12:39,740 --> 00:12:36,730 students that I was working with 273 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:39,750 if you try to discuss mechanisms of 274 00:12:46,050 --> 00:12:42,570 electromagnetism operating in the body 275 00:12:49,050 --> 00:12:46,060 they had completely no idea what you 276 00:12:51,510 --> 00:12:49,060 were talking about you know I remember 277 00:12:55,050 --> 00:12:51,520 getting into a discussion on whether or 278 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:55,060 not there were photons in the brain and 279 00:13:00,900 --> 00:12:57,210 whether or not there was electromagnetic 280 00:13:02,910 --> 00:13:00,910 phenomenon occurring in the brain one of 281 00:13:05,070 --> 00:13:02,920 the patients didn't said you know I said 282 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:05,080 yeah of course there's electromagnetism 283 00:13:10,130 --> 00:13:07,570 in the brain and he said oh but are 284 00:13:13,830 --> 00:13:10,140 there photons I had to explain the 285 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:13,840 electro magnetism is protons you know 286 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:15,580 that's the quantization of the 287 00:13:19,650 --> 00:13:17,110 electromagnetic fields it's called a 288 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:19,660 photon you know so you know is this that 289 00:13:27,170 --> 00:13:24,310 the problem was it still is that to get 290 00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:27,180 a you know advanced degree in biology 291 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:29,680 where you're going to practice medicine 292 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:34,510 or study the biological system now you 293 00:13:40,730 --> 00:13:36,430 only need one or two years of physics 294 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:40,740 and that rarely gets you into Maxwell's 295 00:13:45,630 --> 00:13:43,360 electromagnetism and so if you start 296 00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:45,640 talking about quantum biology you know 297 00:13:49,950 --> 00:13:48,550 it just flies completely by the wayside 298 00:13:53,940 --> 00:13:49,960 you know this is completely off the 299 00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:53,950 radar and just there's no especially 300 00:13:57,210 --> 00:13:55,540 back then there's there's no context 301 00:14:00,060 --> 00:13:57,220 point you know it sounds like you're 302 00:14:02,970 --> 00:14:00,070 just talking crazy and then you know on 303 00:14:05,340 --> 00:14:02,980 the physics side physicists in terms of 304 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:05,350 understanding quantum biology they don't 305 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:07,120 have a thorough enough understanding of 306 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:11,710 the intricacies of the nanomolecular 307 00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:14,920 scale biological system you know I think 308 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:17,920 a micro scale to understand how quantum 309 00:14:22,110 --> 00:14:20,050 physics quantum mechanical phenomenon 310 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:22,120 can be taking place there lateral 311 00:14:30,980 --> 00:14:26,650 dynamics and micro magnetism so when I 312 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:30,990 was able to came up with not seen him 313 00:14:38,070 --> 00:14:34,090 you know Hughes Hall effect or graphic 314 00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:38,080 model of unified physics fit perfectly 315 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:44,230 into beginning to explain these hard 316 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:47,290 problems these big questions that don't 317 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:50,050 have an explanation in biology 318 00:14:55,830 --> 00:14:53,920 coming from the foundational side of 319 00:14:58,770 --> 00:14:55,840 things which is physics 320 00:15:01,650 --> 00:14:58,780 you know so consciousness you know when 321 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:01,660 you begin to integrate in hall of 322 00:15:08,970 --> 00:15:04,510 graphic principles the holographic brain 323 00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:08,980 and the holographic structure of some 324 00:15:14,860 --> 00:15:11,390 space in space-time 325 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:14,870 it's kind of very natural and easy 326 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:18,170 explanation flows from that of how you 327 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:21,290 did consciousness and you can begin to 328 00:15:26,350 --> 00:15:24,170 describe actually the nature of 329 00:15:29,380 --> 00:15:26,360 consciousness in the universe 330 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:29,390 the role it plays in the mechanisms and 331 00:15:35,650 --> 00:15:32,510 dynamics of the universe but then so 332 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:35,660 that theoretical fundamental level 333 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:39,170 that's what wealth of understanding but 334 00:15:44,140 --> 00:15:41,680 of course that theoretical side 335 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:44,150 satisfies the curiosity but what about 336 00:15:50,290 --> 00:15:47,870 the applications you know and you know 337 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:50,300 that's where it becomes relevant to 338 00:15:55,570 --> 00:15:51,710 folks who've maybe don't even have that 339 00:15:58,300 --> 00:15:55,580 curiosity you know because it can better 340 00:16:01,570 --> 00:15:58,310 inform you know taking that whole 341 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:01,580 fractal graphic unified physics approach 342 00:16:05,830 --> 00:16:04,850 can inform your ideas of health and 343 00:16:10,290 --> 00:16:05,840 wellness of the body 344 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:10,300 you know therapeutic approaches which is 345 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:12,410 especially you know more relevant now 346 00:16:18,250 --> 00:16:14,890 than ever given the certain 347 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:18,260 circumstances the global situation we're 348 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:23,660 in so sure enough we're working on novel 349 00:16:30,070 --> 00:16:27,170 approaches to health and wellness to you 350 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:30,080 know combating disease you know both 351 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:35,330 ways to neutralize pathogens which don't 352 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:38,570 follow the you know consensus model the 353 00:16:43,810 --> 00:16:41,650 conventional paradigm of using drugs 354 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:43,820 synthesized chemicals and stuff like 355 00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:46,810 that which has its place and is 356 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:50,150 effective and acute circumstances and in 357 00:16:57,490 --> 00:16:54,650 certain situations but taking a more but 358 00:16:59,970 --> 00:16:57,500 you could call holistic approach point 359 00:17:02,380 --> 00:16:59,980 an approach that's going more to the 360 00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:02,390 foundational level 361 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:05,680 you know things are operating via 362 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:08,810 information exchange of the quantum 363 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:11,810 fields electromagnetic information 364 00:17:19,290 --> 00:17:16,010 exchange phonon exchange and so if you 365 00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:19,300 can modulate these things at that level 366 00:17:28,540 --> 00:17:24,670 you can make significant changes with 367 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:28,550 minimal side effects hmm and so you know 368 00:17:33,580 --> 00:17:30,110 that's certainly the approach we're 369 00:17:37,150 --> 00:17:33,590 taking so both externally combat say 370 00:17:39,460 --> 00:17:37,160 pathogens but also internally boosts the 371 00:17:41,710 --> 00:17:39,470 health wellness of the biological system 372 00:17:43,870 --> 00:17:41,720 and you know that has spiritual or 373 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:43,880 consciousness component too because you 374 00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:45,230 know your state of mind how are you 375 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:49,280 connected in this connected universe you 376 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:54,050 know and then of course the connectivity 377 00:18:00,910 --> 00:17:59,360 of your system as well mm-hmm yes and 378 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:00,920 let's drill down into that a little bit 379 00:18:07,090 --> 00:18:04,630 more maybe let's talk about viruses and 380 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:07,100 drill down into what makes us sick 381 00:18:12,430 --> 00:18:09,290 because we have this overarching 382 00:18:15,070 --> 00:18:12,440 scientific model of a cold random harsh 383 00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:15,080 universe and that attitude certainly 384 00:18:20,350 --> 00:18:17,000 informs our views on health and wellness 385 00:18:23,050 --> 00:18:20,360 too along with all the special interests 386 00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:23,060 that want to corral our thinking but we 387 00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:25,520 use militaristic language and approach 388 00:18:29,290 --> 00:18:27,590 the natural world as this thing that 389 00:18:31,180 --> 00:18:29,300 we're doing battle with and it's trying 390 00:18:34,060 --> 00:18:31,190 to kill us we're at war with the germs 391 00:18:36,250 --> 00:18:34,070 and all that but I've had several guests 392 00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:36,260 that have explained how to cure dozens 393 00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:38,720 of autoimmune conditions or even cancer 394 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:42,260 largely with diet or fixing our mineral 395 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:44,810 deficiencies which shows right there 396 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:47,210 that we aren't just victims of what we 397 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:50,170 randomly quote-unquote catch so to speak 398 00:18:55,870 --> 00:18:53,330 yeah we also have people saying that 399 00:18:58,630 --> 00:18:55,880 just as we learned not all bacteria is 400 00:19:01,570 --> 00:18:58,640 bad in fact a lot of it isn't viruses 401 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:01,580 might also be more nuanced than the way 402 00:19:06,190 --> 00:19:03,890 the mainstream has presented them to us 403 00:19:08,290 --> 00:19:06,200 maybe not the source of disease at all 404 00:19:10,330 --> 00:19:08,300 I'm not sure but what are your thoughts 405 00:19:14,410 --> 00:19:10,340 how do some of these ideas need to be 406 00:19:17,010 --> 00:19:14,420 reframed with a holo fractal graphic or 407 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:17,020 quantum biological 408 00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:19,210 now those are great points that you 409 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:23,350 bring up in first on the role of viruses 410 00:19:29,010 --> 00:19:25,210 that's exactly right you know the 411 00:19:31,370 --> 00:19:29,020 conventional idea you know these are are 412 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:31,380 not organisms these are pathogenic 413 00:19:40,330 --> 00:19:36,910 nanomachines purely is erroneous that's 414 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:40,340 not entirely correct at all 415 00:19:46,990 --> 00:19:43,190 you know so actually you know you might 416 00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:47,000 have heard of the microbiome which 417 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:50,049 describes the flora yes the 418 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:52,970 microorganisms naturally present and 419 00:19:58,620 --> 00:19:56,090 body and they actually they outnumber 420 00:20:02,430 --> 00:19:58,630 your own cells by about a hundred to one 421 00:20:03,580 --> 00:20:02,440 so you have a hundred times more 422 00:20:07,299 --> 00:20:03,590 microorganisms 423 00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:07,309 that's bacteria in your body in your 424 00:20:12,570 --> 00:20:09,950 system then you do your own cells and 425 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:12,580 that's your microbiome now you know 426 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:15,200 obviously that's come along and we 427 00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:18,080 understand fully the you know okay these 428 00:20:25,269 --> 00:20:20,620 so-called germs these microorganisms are 429 00:20:28,539 --> 00:20:25,279 bad you know in fact if you don't have a 430 00:20:33,639 --> 00:20:28,549 healthy micro flora you're a very 431 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:33,649 unhealthy it is essential to the health 432 00:20:38,669 --> 00:20:36,289 and well-being of your biological system 433 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:38,679 it performs as married functions in 434 00:20:45,730 --> 00:20:42,640 addition to actually protecting you from 435 00:20:49,090 --> 00:20:45,740 microorganisms that are opportunistic 436 00:20:50,260 --> 00:20:49,100 pathogens that will disrupt the health 437 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,270 and wellness of your body if they're 438 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:52,640 able to take hold and insulates in 439 00:21:00,530 --> 00:20:56,970 fashion but you also have the viral 440 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:00,540 now it out numbers so the number of 441 00:21:09,230 --> 00:21:05,670 viruses are they outnumber your cells a 442 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:09,240 thousand to one so you have thousand 443 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:12,960 times more viruses in your body and you 444 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:19,550 do cells and obviously these are not bad 445 00:21:28,150 --> 00:21:23,250 because that my room just like the 446 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:28,160 microbiome is part of the natural 447 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:29,970 functioning of your body 448 00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:33,600 maintaining health and wellness in a 449 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:36,350 dorito great portion of these viruses 450 00:21:44,510 --> 00:21:41,570 found in the intestinal system are 451 00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:44,520 regulating the microbiome they're 452 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:48,240 reading out potentially pathogenic or 453 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:51,810 disease-causing microorganisms and in 454 00:21:59,030 --> 00:21:56,850 fact you could isolate those viruses 455 00:22:03,230 --> 00:21:59,040 from the intestinal tract and use it to 456 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:03,240 treat microbial infections these are 457 00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:06,500 particularly called bacteria phages and 458 00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:09,580 they are 459 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:12,660 orders of magnitude more safe than 460 00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:14,970 antibiotics which are chemical 461 00:22:20,550 --> 00:22:17,470 treatments this is a non chemical 462 00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:20,560 approach to antibiotics and there are a 463 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:24,430 hundred percent selected so one of the 464 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:27,130 problems with traditional antibiotics is 465 00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:29,410 that they take out all of your micro 466 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:32,590 flora every micro organism 467 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:35,290 the viruses when we target one or maybe 468 00:22:41,790 --> 00:22:39,370 two bacteria and the bad ones so you can 469 00:22:44,610 --> 00:22:41,800 target them and leave your cells 470 00:22:46,790 --> 00:22:44,620 completely untouched and your healthy 471 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:46,800 welcomed Florence completely untouched 472 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:50,740 now that's not even getting entered yet 473 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:53,710 the human endogenous retroviruses which 474 00:22:59,910 --> 00:22:57,210 are indeed genome human genome and that 475 00:23:04,740 --> 00:22:59,920 will come up later if we get into the 476 00:23:07,410 --> 00:23:04,750 alien genetic yeah I'm excited for that 477 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:07,420 and I'm curious if this is maybe it's 478 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:08,890 different terminology but it seems 479 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:13,090 pretty congruent with the exosome theory 480 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:14,890 which is being tossed around a lot now 481 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:17,950 which is the idea that when someone gets 482 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:21,310 into a state of illness and then we take 483 00:23:25,020 --> 00:23:22,690 a blood sample look under the microscope 484 00:23:26,220 --> 00:23:25,030 we see these things we call them viruses 485 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:26,230 and we're saying that's what's causing 486 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:28,090 the illness because this is a thing that 487 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:30,070 I didn't see in the healthy person but 488 00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:33,250 the exosome theory is saying that 489 00:23:38,610 --> 00:23:36,190 actually these viruses or these things 490 00:23:40,770 --> 00:23:38,620 were seen they emerge from your cell 491 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:40,780 there there's something that your cell 492 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:43,750 produces to try to detoxify itself there 493 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:46,690 are excretions of a toxic cell and I 494 00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:48,520 mean you're saying endogenous this seems 495 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:51,040 very much in line these are things that 496 00:23:57,210 --> 00:23:53,590 are part of our makeup that emerge from 497 00:24:00,840 --> 00:23:57,220 inside of us not something we've caught 498 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:00,850 from the outside world randomly well 499 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:04,450 there is some truth to that but for 500 00:24:08,250 --> 00:24:06,250 supporters of the exosomes 501 00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:08,260 they're not going to like what I have to 502 00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:10,900 say just because you know that's just 503 00:24:19,310 --> 00:24:15,190 not actually once occurring because you 504 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:19,320 can isolate those virus particles and 505 00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:24,280 you can do an analysis and autopsy if 506 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:28,030 you will on what they're made of you 507 00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:31,480 know you can look at the protein capsule 508 00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:35,740 they informs the body you can go inside 509 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:38,980 and look at the molecules the specific 510 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:42,640 you know nano machines then it's use it 511 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:45,760 to operate look at its DNA or RNA 512 00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:49,840 genome and it's clearly not something 513 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,260 that's coming from our own cells because 514 00:24:58,620 --> 00:24:55,600 most of these components are completely 515 00:25:03,420 --> 00:24:58,630 foreign to what's naturally present in 516 00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:03,430 the body their components say you don't 517 00:25:09,410 --> 00:25:05,590 have the bodies that they're coming from 518 00:25:15,970 --> 00:25:09,420 outside into the body you know you can 519 00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:15,980 very clearly show that so that 520 00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:17,960 promoters of eggs is up there definitely 521 00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:20,720 are going to like what I have to say 522 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:22,910 about that you know because particularly 523 00:25:30,010 --> 00:25:26,480 the idea like okay so if say you're 524 00:25:32,530 --> 00:25:30,020 being exposed to five gene creates a 525 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:32,540 toxic buildup in the cell and cell 526 00:25:38,550 --> 00:25:34,970 trying to detoxify itself via exosomes 527 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:38,560 the only thing is the you can look at 528 00:25:45,550 --> 00:25:43,730 exosomes or the budding of vesicle 529 00:25:48,250 --> 00:25:45,560 compartments from the membrane of the 530 00:25:52,170 --> 00:25:48,260 cell which happens all the time of a 531 00:25:58,660 --> 00:25:52,180 neural transmission is a process of 532 00:26:01,950 --> 00:25:58,670 exosome no the releasing of a lipid 533 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:01,960 vesicles from the synapse of the neuron 534 00:26:07,630 --> 00:26:05,660 into the intracellular space and I mean 535 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:07,640 no you can just really easily see that 536 00:26:14,890 --> 00:26:11,200 these extracellular vesicles are 537 00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:14,900 completely different from a virus fair 538 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:17,270 fair and maybe that's a little too in 539 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:19,850 the weeds perhaps it just it prompted 540 00:26:24,970 --> 00:26:22,130 that from me because you said endogenous 541 00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:24,980 viruses and do you have this viral and 542 00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:26,990 some aren't so bad so and obviously 543 00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:29,480 we're talking about a category viruses 544 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:32,120 that we know there are just thousands of 545 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:33,650 things within so I'm sure there's a lot 546 00:26:39,670 --> 00:26:36,290 of nuance in and maybe we can't even 547 00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,680 categorize all viruses as one thing but 548 00:26:44,110 --> 00:26:41,600 I guess there's just some that aren't so 549 00:26:46,150 --> 00:26:44,120 bad for us and are kind of housed in our 550 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,160 body and that's where I'll say that 551 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,320 there is some truth to that because in 552 00:26:54,430 --> 00:26:50,480 order to do have those endogenous 553 00:26:57,670 --> 00:26:54,440 retroviruses and so a model that I've 554 00:27:00,670 --> 00:26:57,680 promoted it's actually a theory that I 555 00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:00,680 developed when I first started learning 556 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:03,830 about viruses you know at the university 557 00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:08,570 is that you do have beneficial or 558 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:13,700 altruistic viruses and so you can have 559 00:27:21,490 --> 00:27:17,440 this kind of intrinsic or internal 560 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:21,500 activation of viruses you know and it 561 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:23,690 would look just like the X's on budding 562 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:25,890 on the cell 563 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:30,190 transmitting information via package DNA 564 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:33,790 to adjacent cells and I think that that 565 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:36,570 is a current and actually that's a 566 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:40,090 beneficial process the reason why it's 567 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:44,170 not known is that the only reason we 568 00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:46,450 even though viruses are round is when 569 00:27:53,790 --> 00:27:50,020 they cause a problem you know it's when 570 00:27:56,340 --> 00:27:53,800 you have one that is disrupting the 571 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:56,350 health and wellness of the system that's 572 00:27:59,970 --> 00:27:57,970 when you know okay something's going on 573 00:28:02,370 --> 00:27:59,980 there's something there and you can see 574 00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:02,380 it and identify it but if it's something 575 00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:05,020 that's a normal part of the functioning 576 00:28:10,650 --> 00:28:07,480 of the body and it's actually not 577 00:28:13,170 --> 00:28:10,660 causing harm but it's helping the body 578 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:13,180 if Michael completely our notice 579 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:15,370 especially given the extremely small 580 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:17,860 size of viruses know they're in the 581 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:22,480 nanometer scale range and so that's 582 00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:25,690 actually a model I developed to explain 583 00:28:30,610 --> 00:28:28,300 the origin of our missions where they 584 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:34,330 and they actually in the deep past in 585 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:37,130 the early history of life they merged as 586 00:28:42,670 --> 00:28:40,490 a Jun sharing mechanism for horizontal 587 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:42,680 gene transfer so organisms could act 588 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:46,610 altruistically collaborated you so if 589 00:28:52,990 --> 00:28:50,330 they had a new mutation a new piece of 590 00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:53,000 gene information that was beneficial and 591 00:29:00,190 --> 00:28:56,480 helpful it could package it up and pass 592 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:00,200 along to a neighbor and I think that 593 00:29:05,049 --> 00:29:01,809 that is I mean you know that was my 594 00:29:07,150 --> 00:29:05,059 hypothesis very early on and actually an 595 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:07,160 instance of that has been discovered 596 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:10,850 where these so-called viruses are 597 00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:14,809 actually being used to share useful DNA 598 00:29:21,850 --> 00:29:18,400 information with a colony of 599 00:29:26,020 --> 00:29:21,860 microorganisms own it is nuanced it is 600 00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:26,030 nuanced isn't it all and so a major 601 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:29,500 interest of mine right now is how the 602 00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:32,240 electromagnetic fields of the body and 603 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:34,220 the earth in the environment play a role 604 00:29:39,580 --> 00:29:36,530 in our health and wellness some say it's 605 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:39,590 the most fundamental aspect and it 606 00:29:44,890 --> 00:29:42,590 wasn't until we started stringing 607 00:29:46,780 --> 00:29:44,900 electrical wires across every city and 608 00:29:49,419 --> 00:29:46,790 sending radio waves across the globe 609 00:29:51,730 --> 00:29:49,429 that we started seeing people get the 610 00:29:53,470 --> 00:29:51,740 flu in mass that's an argument I've 611 00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:53,480 heard that it's kind of compelling I 612 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:54,920 just think it's interesting because even 613 00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:56,690 in the corona virus news we don't really 614 00:30:01,000 --> 00:29:59,210 hear anything about diet or upping our 615 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:01,010 immune system and then to go a level 616 00:30:06,190 --> 00:30:03,590 deeper we never really hear about the 617 00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:06,200 health of our electromagnetic fields and 618 00:30:10,450 --> 00:30:09,470 how to take care of that but I'm curious 619 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:10,460 what are your thoughts on the 620 00:30:16,150 --> 00:30:13,490 relationship between these unseen fields 621 00:30:20,590 --> 00:30:16,160 and the state of our general health how 622 00:30:22,390 --> 00:30:20,600 related are they oh yeah and you don't 623 00:30:23,980 --> 00:30:22,400 just touch on that a point that you've 624 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:23,990 brought up you know it is kind of 625 00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:26,450 amazing to me that if you go into a 626 00:30:32,049 --> 00:30:29,840 hospital we'll be sick and the whole 627 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:32,059 doctor I didn't say those stick of 628 00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:34,330 ventilators into your lungs which is 629 00:30:41,010 --> 00:30:36,830 extremely invasive and damaging 630 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:41,020 procedure but one that gives the 631 00:30:44,590 --> 00:30:43,610 supplements that the body needs and 632 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:44,600 micronutrients 633 00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:47,570 body needs to have a healthy functioning 634 00:30:54,370 --> 00:30:51,350 immune system I think that in a lot of 635 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:54,380 those cases just giving zinc vitamin D 636 00:31:01,630 --> 00:30:56,570 vitamin C's you know boosting those of 637 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:01,640 those DHA DHA you could probably pretty 638 00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:03,890 much eliminate the need for any serious 639 00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:07,550 medical intervention give a body that 640 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:09,620 resources it needs to heal itself 641 00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:15,010 naturally but then we do have a new 642 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:18,620 situation for the human experience which 643 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:22,010 is the widespread and intensifying 644 00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:25,930 generation of artificially generated 645 00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:29,740 electromagnetic fields and started with 646 00:31:37,870 --> 00:31:33,640 50 to 60 Hertz electrical power lines 647 00:31:41,950 --> 00:31:37,880 milk in the early 20th century 648 00:31:43,510 --> 00:31:41,960 and there's certainly no doubt what the 649 00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:43,520 studies experiments have been performed 650 00:31:49,510 --> 00:31:47,630 to show that these external sources of 651 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:49,520 electromagnetic radiation joint 652 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:53,810 naturally present to absolutely interact 653 00:32:00,240 --> 00:31:56,930 with the functioning of the body and can 654 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:00,250 disrupt it oftentimes in a negative way 655 00:32:08,290 --> 00:32:06,050 now there is really interesting analysis 656 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:08,300 that have been performed showing the 657 00:32:15,610 --> 00:32:12,610 correlation between the emergence of 658 00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:15,620 these external sources of 659 00:32:22,030 --> 00:32:19,190 electromagnetic radiation and epidemics 660 00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:22,040 pandemics etcetera you know even with 661 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:26,150 the current pandemic if you see a sheet 662 00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:32,630 concentration the density of infections 663 00:32:41,409 --> 00:32:37,590 it overlaps nearly exactly with 664 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:41,419 locations where the five journey 665 00:32:47,810 --> 00:32:44,880 technology is being set up and 666 00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:47,820 implemented you always have to be 667 00:32:54,730 --> 00:32:51,590 careful though with correlations because 668 00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,740 despite the kind of layman's 669 00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,360 interpretation of a correlation a 670 00:33:03,860 --> 00:32:59,120 correlation does not mean causation 671 00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:03,870 right so you can see okay you've got 672 00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:07,200 increased instances of infection in 673 00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:11,100 locations where IP is being initiated so 674 00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:13,470 it's correlated but there's other things 675 00:33:18,590 --> 00:33:15,419 that are correlated like five days 676 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:18,600 rolled out in the most densely populated 677 00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:23,279 areas cities and cities where you have 678 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:24,600 the hospital rate because it's most 679 00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:26,970 densely populated area so you know in 680 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:29,870 most correlated it's not it doesn't 681 00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:33,250 necessarily say that there's competition 682 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:39,150 now provide research into the effects of 683 00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:41,590 artificial source went to magnetic 684 00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:44,380 radiation you know it certainly is going 685 00:33:53,370 --> 00:33:47,679 to lower the immune function of the body 686 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:53,380 making it more susceptible to infections 687 00:34:01,740 --> 00:33:58,450 disease because the body has increased 688 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:01,750 stress levels from the electromagnetic 689 00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:06,190 load that no isn't naturally present and 690 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:09,760 really hasn't been present for the 100 691 00:34:15,649 --> 00:34:12,250 plus thousand years of human history you 692 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:15,659 know it's just an extremely instant 693 00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:20,129 change in what our body has to deal with 694 00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:23,409 but then some of the proponents of 695 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,720 good-x is older he's going on to kind of 696 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:28,720 take a step to form and say well these 697 00:34:34,109 --> 00:34:31,570 pandemics and result the direct result 698 00:34:38,369 --> 00:34:34,119 of these external sources of 699 00:34:40,490 --> 00:34:38,379 electromagnetic fields but you know the 700 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:40,500 problem with that is the human 701 00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:44,320 populations also have in wall and deep 702 00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:49,839 history of epidemics going back is for 703 00:34:57,930 --> 00:34:53,849 is we have archaeological evidence of 704 00:35:02,060 --> 00:34:57,940 you know you can dig up three 705 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:02,070 thousand-year-old mass graves and 706 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:04,890 locations and say Western Europe and 707 00:35:12,329 --> 00:35:07,170 isolate bubonic plague 708 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:12,339 so these pathogens infecting human 709 00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:14,710 populations causing epidemics pandemics 710 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:18,280 is a naturally occurring thing it's been 711 00:35:25,859 --> 00:35:21,250 with us always it'd be very difficult to 712 00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:25,869 correlate 1348 black death of Europe 713 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:28,150 which killed 25% of the population with 714 00:35:33,570 --> 00:35:32,170 the rollout of Hygiene all right you 715 00:35:35,070 --> 00:35:33,580 know what is interesting about that 716 00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:35,080 particular case and of course this is 717 00:35:40,829 --> 00:35:36,820 all just outside the box stuff that I 718 00:35:42,359 --> 00:35:40,839 read but there is a book out there it's 719 00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:42,369 not going to come to me in this moment 720 00:35:45,089 --> 00:35:43,599 because I didn't think we would talk 721 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:45,099 about this particular plague but 722 00:35:49,980 --> 00:35:46,810 apparently there's a coral 723 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:49,990 a Shinto an asteroid impact or a meteor 724 00:35:57,180 --> 00:35:53,730 impact that kicked up a lot of dust and 725 00:35:59,790 --> 00:35:57,190 particulates in the air and possibly a 726 00:36:01,890 --> 00:35:59,800 change in the environment that isn't 727 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:01,900 necessarily through human technology 728 00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:04,630 could have caused a massive illness 729 00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:07,030 because it seems to again know no 730 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:10,420 definitive causation but people who have 731 00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:12,760 looked back in history and tried to find 732 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:15,190 possible causes that really weren't 733 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:18,250 being thought about at the time I have 734 00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,170 looked at that and thought that it could 735 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:22,480 have played a role and I don't know but 736 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:24,490 it is it is interesting because we know 737 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:27,250 that a lot of viruses and bacteria come 738 00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:29,770 in on comets and asteroids and meteors 739 00:36:33,870 --> 00:36:31,720 from what I understand and when you have 740 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,880 an impact like that on the ground it can 741 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:35,920 send a bunch of heavy metals up into the 742 00:36:39,810 --> 00:36:38,410 air I don't know it's obviously beyond 743 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:39,820 me but I thought that was an interesting 744 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:43,570 possibility yeah that is extremely 745 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:47,010 interesting now you know it hasn't been 746 00:36:57,060 --> 00:36:53,050 100% confirmed that you can have what 747 00:37:00,270 --> 00:36:57,070 amounts to interstellar transmission 748 00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:00,280 virus so it hasn't been 100% confirmed 749 00:37:06,510 --> 00:37:03,220 that you know virus or microbe bacteria 750 00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:06,520 microorganism has come from outer space 751 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:11,080 but there are many scientists or at 752 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:13,930 least a good number who and myself 753 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:16,150 included strongly believe that this is 754 00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:21,450 occurring you can have a new virus that 755 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,590 comes at Earth from outer space now you 756 00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:28,560 know if you look at some of the numbers 757 00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:31,990 on any given day there's about a hundred 758 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:36,070 million viruses raining down per square 759 00:37:42,650 --> 00:37:40,090 meter of the Earth's surface so you know 760 00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:42,660 you could go out on the place 761 00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:46,180 unobstructed with sky set up with clay 762 00:37:50,820 --> 00:37:48,700 cocaine and a square meter and once I 763 00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:50,830 can get 100 million viruses that have 764 00:37:58,420 --> 00:37:54,800 rained down from the skies you know 765 00:38:02,109 --> 00:37:58,430 this is you know a major component of 766 00:38:05,980 --> 00:38:02,119 the theory of panspermia yes you know so 767 00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:05,990 I mean not only can it explain possibly 768 00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:08,720 the emergence of new viruses and 769 00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:11,260 especially pandemics they proved to be 770 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:17,270 no exception lethal but actually you 771 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:18,920 know that's the same kind of mechanism 772 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:21,410 by which you could explain the origin of 773 00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:28,730 life on earth since we had just stumbled 774 00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:30,260 onto this and is definitely on the 775 00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:32,510 agenda let's talk about it while we're 776 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:35,119 still in the first hour let's get into 777 00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:39,170 human DNA I understand your PhD thesis 778 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,560 was on genetic manipulation of evolving 779 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:44,480 humans and the idea that we were 780 00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:46,130 engineered in the ancient past 781 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:48,740 possibly I've heard you say that the 782 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:51,170 very same techniques and kind of 783 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:53,330 artifacts of DNA editing that we use 784 00:38:58,330 --> 00:38:55,970 today can actually be seen in our 785 00:38:59,770 --> 00:38:58,340 genetic code somewhere this might relate 786 00:39:03,400 --> 00:38:59,780 to what you mentioned a few moments ago 787 00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:03,410 about retroviruses possibly leading to 788 00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:07,070 an alien hybrid DNA conclusion but how 789 00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:08,750 do you factor this kind of stuff into 790 00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,750 the human satori and what is the human 791 00:39:20,430 --> 00:39:14,000 story look like with this new context 792 00:39:25,570 --> 00:39:20,440 yeah and also just be completely clear 793 00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:25,580 so my thesis work was actually at that 794 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:28,700 time I was just trying to explain via 795 00:39:36,970 --> 00:39:32,410 you know investigating the genome how 796 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:36,980 you had a transition from an ape-like 797 00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:39,850 ancestor you know closely resembling 798 00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:42,960 c'mon babe check Lindsey 799 00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:46,710 to a human because the conventional 800 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:51,960 evolutionary theory is that we share a 801 00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:53,970 common ancestry with the chimpanzee and 802 00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:57,270 so if you go back eight nine million 803 00:40:05,539 --> 00:40:00,960 years ago we actually came from the same 804 00:40:09,260 --> 00:40:05,549 population of apes but you know these 805 00:40:11,329 --> 00:40:09,270 populations split on one of them you 806 00:40:14,049 --> 00:40:11,339 know went on to become humans another 807 00:40:18,019 --> 00:40:14,059 one went on to become a modern-day 808 00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:18,029 chimpanzees and bonobos and you consider 809 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:21,000 this particularly if you do an analysis 810 00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:24,089 of the genome so a comparative analysis 811 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:25,470 of genomes between humans and 812 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:29,849 chimpanzees because they have about 813 00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:32,210 ninety eight point nine percent 814 00:40:37,299 --> 00:40:35,640 similarity in that varies it can be you 815 00:40:40,849 --> 00:40:37,309 know give or take the higher lower 816 00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:40,859 percent similarity you know by maybe 0.5 817 00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:45,569 to 1 percent but it is is the number of 818 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:48,660 potential variability between a human 819 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:50,490 genome and a chimpanzee genome is no 820 00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:52,650 greater than the number of variability 821 00:40:59,420 --> 00:40:55,670 between one human individual and another 822 00:41:03,230 --> 00:40:59,430 so actually mean you can have the same 823 00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:03,240 amount of genetic diversity as I have 824 00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:07,230 with a given chimpanzee hide you know 825 00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:09,990 and what that means in plain English is 826 00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:15,420 that our genes or nearly identical with 827 00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:18,900 the chimpanzees now that's a little bit 828 00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:21,510 problematic given the conventional 829 00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:24,660 paradigm because genes or what are 830 00:41:30,380 --> 00:41:27,839 supposed to make you a unique species 831 00:41:35,089 --> 00:41:30,390 you know supposedly changes in the genes 832 00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:35,099 that lead you to become different from 833 00:41:39,410 --> 00:41:37,380 another population they haven't had the 834 00:41:42,740 --> 00:41:39,420 changes in the genes of Japan and that's 835 00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:42,750 the process of speciation so my thesis 836 00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,240 was well okay if the genes are identical 837 00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:47,520 how do we account for the differences 838 00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,440 and you know this is a pretty big bite 839 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:55,200 to chew off because that you know part 840 00:41:58,380 --> 00:41:55,920 of that 841 00:42:01,710 --> 00:41:58,390 Fars explaining how 842 00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,720 genes produce an organism how'd you go 843 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:04,240 from a genotype to phenotype which I 844 00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:09,010 have worked out to a large extent with 845 00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:10,660 you know explorations that you won't 846 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:16,980 find in any biology lecture or textbook 847 00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:21,010 now it was in the course of doing this 848 00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:23,740 research that as I okay so it's not the 849 00:42:29,009 --> 00:42:27,369 gene coding regions well that's not that 850 00:42:33,309 --> 00:42:29,019 big a problem because the gene coding 851 00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:33,319 regions only account for 1% a genome 852 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:37,400 so 99% of the genome are not canonical 853 00:42:46,819 --> 00:42:42,650 or conventional gene coding segments of 854 00:42:49,549 --> 00:42:46,829 DNA 99% is something else 855 00:42:54,259 --> 00:42:49,559 now that does have the historical 856 00:42:56,029 --> 00:42:54,269 misnomer of the joke DNA which today no 857 00:42:58,729 --> 00:42:56,039 molecular biologists and geneticists 858 00:43:01,880 --> 00:42:58,739 refers to is junk in a because it's 859 00:43:04,279 --> 00:43:01,890 known that it's anything but young 860 00:43:06,229 --> 00:43:04,289 contains extremely functional which 861 00:43:12,979 --> 00:43:06,239 should have been obvious in the story 862 00:43:15,529 --> 00:43:12,989 okay well so what is that other 99% well 863 00:43:19,669 --> 00:43:15,539 that is where a lot of the interesting 864 00:43:21,979 --> 00:43:19,679 stuff is located in particular you do a 865 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,989 breakdown of it because you know we have 866 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,319 whole genome sequences we've got the 867 00:43:28,729 --> 00:43:26,400 thousand human genome consortium 868 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:28,739 sequence rotating from populations 869 00:43:35,479 --> 00:43:32,160 representing every major ethnographic 870 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:35,489 group of humanity on the planet if you 871 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:40,910 do an analysis of that it's about 50% 872 00:43:46,510 --> 00:43:43,370 retroviral DNA 873 00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:46,520 fifty percent of our genome which is 874 00:43:54,190 --> 00:43:49,220 about 1.5 billion nucleotides 875 00:43:58,690 --> 00:43:54,200 digitate is of external source 876 00:44:05,140 --> 00:43:58,700 it's retroviral DNA that was inserted 877 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:05,150 into the genome now immediately this is 878 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:11,210 a interesting point for me because I had 879 00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:14,450 done my Master's and applied recombinant 880 00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:18,230 DNA technology and what that is is that 881 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:23,360 you use retroviruses to insert DNA into 882 00:44:26,670 --> 00:44:25,490 an organism to change its gene 883 00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:26,680 expression 884 00:44:35,620 --> 00:44:31,510 you know also even the gene therapy for 885 00:44:39,070 --> 00:44:35,630 humans the early practice of gene 886 00:44:42,820 --> 00:44:39,080 therapy use what's called a retro viral 887 00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:42,830 vector where use a retrovirus to insert 888 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:48,980 a gene into the human genome so you're 889 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:52,370 going to explain why humans are 890 00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:54,890 different from our closest genetic 891 00:45:03,520 --> 00:44:58,570 relatives chimpanzees and the answer is 892 00:45:04,210 --> 00:45:03,530 retro viral DNA insertion that's kind of 893 00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:04,220 interesting 894 00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:07,520 it absolutely is and does this retro 895 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:11,540 virus DNA insertion happen naturally it 896 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:14,330 seems like it could or does but is there 897 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:17,510 something different about the the retro 898 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:20,930 virus DNA insertion you're seen in the 899 00:45:26,350 --> 00:45:22,550 human code 900 00:45:28,750 --> 00:45:26,360 yeah yeah what so general the idea is 901 00:45:32,170 --> 00:45:28,760 that it does happen naturally because 902 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:32,180 you know every well not only but most 903 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:36,650 geneticists know that there are human 904 00:45:41,290 --> 00:45:39,170 endogenous retroviruses and I've got 905 00:45:43,810 --> 00:45:41,300 many of those know that it makes up the 906 00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:43,820 do percent of the genome but there's 907 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:46,880 very few Affinia they know talking about 908 00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:50,450 you know genetic engineering in respect 909 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:53,480 to that and because you know it's just 910 00:45:59,290 --> 00:45:55,490 what's given is the explanation is that 911 00:46:03,700 --> 00:45:59,300 well this is occurring naturally but 912 00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:03,710 there are some major problems with that 913 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:06,710 occurring naturally first and foremost 914 00:46:15,310 --> 00:46:09,710 is that there's been no documented case 915 00:46:19,210 --> 00:46:15,320 of retro viral infection being inserted 916 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:19,220 into the gametes the reproductive snails 917 00:46:26,110 --> 00:46:23,290 and passed on to the project so we don't 918 00:46:28,570 --> 00:46:26,120 see that happening naturally we haven't 919 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:28,580 seen that happen naturally 920 00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,890 immediately that's the foundation that 921 00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:33,040 the naturalistic explanation wrestling 922 00:46:40,660 --> 00:46:37,340 and so maybe that does happen from time 923 00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:40,670 to time but there are problems with that 924 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:44,320 is the naturalistic explanation because 925 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:48,170 what happens when a retroviruses targets 926 00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:50,930 a particular cell you know so you can 927 00:46:58,090 --> 00:46:54,110 take the most well-known retrovirus the 928 00:47:01,720 --> 00:46:58,100 human immunodeficiency virus HIV which 929 00:47:04,210 --> 00:47:01,730 targets white blood cells so it binds to 930 00:47:07,540 --> 00:47:04,220 white blood cells inserts its genome 931 00:47:10,450 --> 00:47:07,550 into your genome in such as DNA into 932 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:10,460 your TV and it takes up residence in 933 00:47:15,790 --> 00:47:12,530 there and what happens with white blood 934 00:47:17,830 --> 00:47:15,800 cells they die that's why you become 935 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:17,840 immunodeficient is because the virus 936 00:47:25,450 --> 00:47:21,170 wipes out all themselves well if you 937 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,460 have a retrovirus targeting the gametes 938 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:27,680 the reproductive cells what's going to 939 00:47:33,490 --> 00:47:30,770 happen to those if the virus is 940 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:33,500 spreading through them at a sufficient 941 00:47:39,490 --> 00:47:36,890 rate to insert the DNA into all the 942 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:39,500 billions and billions gametes that it 943 00:47:45,850 --> 00:47:43,010 needs to you know to maintain its 944 00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:45,860 replication so cells are going to die 945 00:47:53,050 --> 00:47:49,880 hmm if an organism has a retrovirus 946 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:53,060 taken out if the gametes it is sterile 947 00:47:59,020 --> 00:47:56,170 it's not going to pass on its DNA 948 00:48:00,400 --> 00:47:59,030 interesting so there's a little bit of a 949 00:48:04,830 --> 00:48:00,410 problem with the naturalistic 950 00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:04,840 explanation for how you get 1.5 billion 951 00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:08,390 nucleotides are made virus into the 952 00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:12,020 genome it gets passed down you know via 953 00:48:16,570 --> 00:48:14,510 inheritance so in layman's terms what 954 00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:16,580 would that mean if we're looking 955 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:19,280 specifically at the reproductive organs 956 00:48:24,730 --> 00:48:22,910 and what you're seeing in them and we're 957 00:48:27,550 --> 00:48:24,740 putting this in the context of we were 958 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:27,560 potentially engineered obviously we're 959 00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:28,970 able to mate 960 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:31,630 today is that something that was 961 00:48:36,970 --> 00:48:34,610 engineered in us were we initially not 962 00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:36,980 able to do that is that am i hearing 963 00:48:42,410 --> 00:48:40,020 this right well you know 964 00:48:46,910 --> 00:48:42,420 it's just that that normal explanation 965 00:48:50,350 --> 00:48:46,920 probably is not accounting form you know 966 00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:50,360 the vast majority of where these 967 00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:53,640 retroviral sequences are coming from so 968 00:48:59,090 --> 00:48:56,280 if you do have other mechanisms like 969 00:49:01,160 --> 00:48:59,100 horizontal gene transfer and this is 970 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:01,170 very important and actually it's what I 971 00:49:08,250 --> 00:49:06,210 was alluding to earlier on on the origin 972 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:08,260 of ounces 973 00:49:16,890 --> 00:49:11,650 the large portion of one of ours is 974 00:49:19,859 --> 00:49:16,900 doing is exchanging DNA from neighbor to 975 00:49:22,859 --> 00:49:19,869 neighbor organism to organism what's 976 00:49:25,650 --> 00:49:22,869 called horizontal and that just refers 977 00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:25,660 to it's not DNA that's being passed on 978 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:29,670 via reproduction the inheritance is 979 00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:34,720 jumping from one cell into another one 980 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:38,140 body into another in a single lifetime 981 00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:40,090 and you know it can spread through an 982 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:42,609 entire population that way and you know 983 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:46,290 be inserted into the genome without 984 00:49:55,020 --> 00:49:52,130 causing problems with reproduction 985 00:49:57,460 --> 00:49:55,030 so this horizontal gene transfer 986 00:50:00,250 --> 00:49:57,470 mechanism is one way and it's kind of 987 00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:00,260 it's a natural type way that you can 988 00:50:12,250 --> 00:50:03,880 have retroviral gene spread through a 989 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:12,260 population now this begins to get into 990 00:50:19,780 --> 00:50:16,090 some of the ideas of how these 991 00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:19,790 retroviral elements could be associated 992 00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:26,350 with actual directed engineering by an 993 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:30,580 advanced extraterrestrial intelligence 994 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:34,330 civilization because one thing that 995 00:50:42,030 --> 00:50:37,730 could potentially happen is that the 996 00:50:45,370 --> 00:50:42,040 same way that you could write a code to 997 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:45,380 act as a virus name into the software of 998 00:50:50,650 --> 00:50:48,290 a computer and change its function you 999 00:50:52,990 --> 00:50:50,660 know obviously that's usually done for 1000 00:50:55,390 --> 00:50:53,000 the various purposes but the same way 1001 00:50:58,060 --> 00:50:55,400 you could do that you know write a code 1002 00:51:02,040 --> 00:50:58,070 send it out have a virus insert it into 1003 00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:02,050 a large number of computers you know a 1004 00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:04,660 advanced of extraterrestrial 1005 00:51:11,470 --> 00:51:08,960 civilization could see oh there's no 1006 00:51:16,420 --> 00:51:11,480 intelligent life over bahamas planet 1007 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:16,430 Earth packaged up a program being a 1008 00:51:24,220 --> 00:51:20,330 program into a virus a retrovirus and 1009 00:51:28,030 --> 00:51:24,230 just send it out through space and you 1010 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:28,040 know it comes raining down and once it 1011 00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:30,650 reaches their surface via this 1012 00:51:35,890 --> 00:51:33,020 horizontal gene transfer goes into the 1013 00:51:39,310 --> 00:51:35,900 human population inserts these novel 1014 00:51:42,220 --> 00:51:39,320 genes in there and directs that 1015 00:51:44,740 --> 00:51:42,230 evolutionary progression of that species 1016 00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,750 and yeah and then they dispense and 1017 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:46,400 crafts out every once in a while to 1018 00:51:52,270 --> 00:51:49,010 check how it's progressing on the old 1019 00:51:53,620 --> 00:51:52,280 alien and farm here oh it's awesome man 1020 00:51:56,290 --> 00:51:53,630 because this is very much in line with 1021 00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:56,300 my thinking because I'm a big fan of the 1022 00:52:01,330 --> 00:51:58,850 genetic manipulation by aliens theory 1023 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:01,340 but as I've gotten deeper into it I've 1024 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:03,050 heard from others who look at it and say 1025 00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:04,850 yeah there might be something to it but 1026 00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:05,980 it's enough 1027 00:52:10,650 --> 00:52:08,200 materialism mistake to think that 1028 00:52:13,710 --> 00:52:10,660 physical beans came here and built us in 1029 00:52:16,109 --> 00:52:13,720 a Frankenstein sorta way and it's a lot 1030 00:52:19,049 --> 00:52:16,119 more likely that they sent out packets 1031 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:19,059 of viruses or bacteria out into the 1032 00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:21,609 universe that could unpack themselves on 1033 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:24,520 maybe any habitable planet or obviously 1034 00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:26,170 city obviously you could direct it here 1035 00:52:30,539 --> 00:52:28,420 if you knew there was life and it could 1036 00:52:32,789 --> 00:52:30,549 just kind of integrate and merge with 1037 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:32,799 what's already here and I like that idea 1038 00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:35,890 too because it is a lot easier to send 1039 00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:38,740 out some sort of terraforming space 1040 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:42,430 drones than it is to physically get to a 1041 00:52:47,370 --> 00:52:44,410 new place imagine setting up shop 1042 00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,380 physically on a new planet when all you 1043 00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:49,359 really have to do is send your virus 1044 00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,510 code there instead it's a lot more 1045 00:52:56,490 --> 00:52:53,920 nuanced it's it's something that a more 1046 00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,500 intelligent species would do rather than 1047 00:53:02,130 --> 00:52:58,480 having to physically be there to set it 1048 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:02,140 all up and also accommodate themselves 1049 00:53:06,539 --> 00:53:04,089 and get their own resources for living 1050 00:53:08,730 --> 00:53:06,549 and in turn you know living and setting 1051 00:53:11,309 --> 00:53:08,740 up a society it takes a lot more work to 1052 00:53:13,289 --> 00:53:11,319 do that but this seems very much in line 1053 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:13,299 with your thinking and I find it 1054 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:16,180 exciting yeah well you know there's 1055 00:53:23,849 --> 00:53:19,450 interesting line of thoughts along that 1056 00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:23,859 kind of model if you will emit if you 1057 00:53:28,529 --> 00:53:26,020 look age you know some of the 1058 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:28,539 projections for Sol you know this is 1059 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:30,690 gonna be a you know high-level 1060 00:53:36,750 --> 00:53:33,490 perspective big picture kind of a view 1061 00:53:39,450 --> 00:53:36,760 if you take some of the ideas of where 1062 00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:39,460 the universe is going alternately you 1063 00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:41,260 know the evolution of the universe the 1064 00:53:48,450 --> 00:53:44,049 main idea to say well it ends in a heat 1065 00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:48,460 death and tropic eat myth now if you're 1066 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:51,420 in advanced civilization you might 1067 00:53:56,730 --> 00:53:53,890 understand that okay so entropy is 1068 00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:56,740 increasing and eventually 1069 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:01,119 it'll be all entropy and the universe 1070 00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:03,790 will suffer the death well one way to 1071 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:07,089 reverse the increase in entropy is to 1072 00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:10,530 increase the intelligence of the system 1073 00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:14,260 so if you can increase intelligence and 1074 00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:17,440 consciousness in the universe you can 1075 00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:20,200 stop that progression of the entropic 1076 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:26,020 increase even reverse it and so what 1077 00:54:35,370 --> 00:54:30,730 might be a motivation of a advanced 1078 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:35,380 intelligent civilization 1079 00:54:42,170 --> 00:54:39,130 to send out his borrow packets into the 1080 00:54:45,980 --> 00:54:42,180 galaxy that are programmed to make 1081 00:54:50,930 --> 00:54:45,990 intelligent species really intelligence 1082 00:54:52,859 --> 00:54:50,940 well it's to increase the overall 1083 00:54:58,079 --> 00:54:52,869 intelligence and consciousness of the 1084 00:55:01,529 --> 00:54:58,089 universe itself you know so you drive 1085 00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:01,539 you help to drive the universe into a 1086 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:05,049 state of greater coherence greater 1087 00:55:13,289 --> 00:55:10,210 systems coherence and actually lower the 1088 00:55:16,339 --> 00:55:13,299 entropic value and I mean it can 1089 00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:16,349 actually go so far as you know if the 1090 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:18,609 intelligence and consciousness of the 1091 00:55:25,319 --> 00:55:22,650 universe increases such an extent via 1092 00:55:27,809 --> 00:55:25,329 accelerating the intelligent evolution 1093 00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:27,819 of species on other planets if it is is 1094 00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:30,910 at the point you can actually make new 1095 00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:35,369 universes that are optimally biophilic 1096 00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:38,980 so the big picture perspective on this 1097 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:41,910 can actually get into some interesting 1098 00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:47,200 ideas mechanisms yes I can I like it man 1099 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:49,420 this is kind of we're already at the 1100 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:51,250 farthest edge of how I've been able to 1101 00:55:56,430 --> 00:55:54,490 process the alien-human hybrid DNA thing 1102 00:55:58,980 --> 00:55:56,440 but at one point I was very much into 1103 00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:58,990 Michael telling jurors work and the idea 1104 00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:01,119 that we were genetically tweaked to be a 1105 00:56:06,809 --> 00:56:03,609 slave species and that jives a lot with 1106 00:56:10,019 --> 00:56:06,819 my thoughts about just conspiratorial 1107 00:56:12,029 --> 00:56:10,029 mekka Nations and the way people seem to 1108 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:12,039 process them or just be oblivious to 1109 00:56:16,970 --> 00:56:14,710 them and just follow any damn order that 1110 00:56:20,009 --> 00:56:16,980 comes across that TV screen we seem 1111 00:56:22,380 --> 00:56:20,019 pre-programmed to just say okay whatever 1112 00:56:24,650 --> 00:56:22,390 you need me to do boss and you know 1113 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:24,660 there's the whole nurture versus nature 1114 00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:27,130 argument and it might be just baked 1115 00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:27,700 right in 1116 00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:29,529 but even if you wanted to engineer a 1117 00:56:36,259 --> 00:56:32,380 slave species again you could send out 1118 00:56:38,849 --> 00:56:36,269 this packet of viruses in advance and 1119 00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:38,859 then just show up when everybody's ready 1120 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:40,809 to pick up their shovels and take orders 1121 00:56:46,049 --> 00:56:44,410 yeah you know even Gore still Michael 1122 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:46,059 Condrey didn't use that really good 1123 00:56:48,810 --> 00:56:48,130 friend of mine I got to spend time with 1124 00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:48,820 him 1125 00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:51,790 down at Adams calendar presented in one 1126 00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:55,120 of his conferences just a fantastic time 1127 00:57:04,140 --> 00:56:59,680 within but if anything you probably have 1128 00:57:07,730 --> 00:57:04,150 more than one advanced extraterrestrial 1129 00:57:14,130 --> 00:57:07,740 intelligence population group out there 1130 00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:14,140 so if anything probably the directed 1131 00:57:20,070 --> 00:57:17,830 evolution of the human populations on 1132 00:57:22,410 --> 00:57:20,080 earth had probably been underway for a 1133 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:22,420 good couple hundred thousands of years 1134 00:57:29,460 --> 00:57:26,010 and then you could have a more 1135 00:57:32,190 --> 00:57:29,470 controlling or even nefarious type 1136 00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:32,200 intelligent group civilization that 1137 00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:35,140 comes in and does some tweaking to make 1138 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:37,870 one of the populations not like a slave 1139 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:41,250 species if anything that's probably 1140 00:57:49,130 --> 00:57:45,370 closest to what matches with that line 1141 00:57:51,769 --> 00:57:49,140 of thinking exact riah Sitchin's work 1142 00:57:57,309 --> 00:57:51,779 infadoos could get more convoluted 1143 00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:57,319 because you undoubtedly have multiple 1144 00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:00,900 different groups different civilizations 1145 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:05,339 that are involved a center action yeah I 1146 00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:07,410 think that's pretty fascinating it's a 1147 00:58:13,759 --> 00:58:10,920 giant alien DNA human engineering soup 1148 00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,769 out there and maybe it's happened many 1149 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:15,359 times I mean the human story is quite 1150 00:58:19,819 --> 00:58:18,450 long and before we run out of time I 1151 00:58:21,769 --> 00:58:19,829 wanted to bring it back to the 1152 00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:21,779 coronavirus thing a little bit more I 1153 00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:22,920 don't want to lean too hard on 1154 00:58:26,750 --> 00:58:25,200 coronavirus centric coverage because I 1155 00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:26,760 do think people are getting fatigued by 1156 00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:28,710 it and if we talk about health and 1157 00:58:32,059 --> 00:58:30,390 wellness in general it makes for an 1158 00:58:34,339 --> 00:58:32,069 interview that still has a lot of value 1159 00:58:37,549 --> 00:58:34,349 even when this thing passes but you did 1160 00:58:39,380 --> 00:58:37,559 tell me you're approaching this kovat 19 1161 00:58:42,859 --> 00:58:39,390 thing way differently than the 1162 00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:42,869 mainstream's quest for a vaccine or the 1163 00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:45,089 use of harsh drugs with pretty scary 1164 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:47,160 side-effects you mentioned the risk of 1165 00:58:52,099 --> 00:58:49,369 blindness in the case of 1166 00:58:55,339 --> 00:58:52,109 hydroxychloroquine well what have you 1167 00:58:57,950 --> 00:58:55,349 been seeing with light and frequency 1168 00:58:59,720 --> 00:58:57,960 based approaches to this specific 1169 00:59:02,480 --> 00:58:59,730 situation because you did describe some 1170 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:02,490 details that were pretty interesting and 1171 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:05,490 it seems like this might be a better way 1172 00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:11,730 to go about it yeah so very early on we 1173 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:15,440 were investigating in approach using 1174 00:59:22,839 --> 00:59:18,210 energy therapeutics you know there's an 1175 00:59:27,740 --> 00:59:22,849 energetic approach to neutralize and 1176 00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:27,750 destroy the virus either being that we 1177 00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:29,590 could design 1178 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:32,500 an electromagnetic system that would 1179 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:36,370 specifically target the virus and would 1180 00:59:46,290 --> 00:59:42,610 have minimal to no side effects on human 1181 00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:46,300 hosts or humans in the environment which 1182 00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:49,440 is saw this is potentially much more 1183 00:59:58,010 --> 00:59:54,790 effective and safer means than the more 1184 01:00:01,320 --> 00:59:58,020 traditional approaches certainly more 1185 01:00:04,590 --> 01:00:01,330 helpful than quarantine an entire 1186 01:00:08,910 --> 01:00:04,600 population you know if something quickly 1187 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:08,920 designed to avoid that problem because 1188 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:12,130 you know that isn't going to be solved 1189 01:00:19,410 --> 01:00:16,210 with a vaccine that has been and 1190 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:19,420 continues to be touted as the solution 1191 01:00:24,990 --> 01:00:23,530 to the quantum that people are going to 1192 01:00:27,870 --> 01:00:25,000 be allowed to come out of their homes 1193 01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:27,880 once we have neck seen but you know 1194 01:00:34,830 --> 01:00:31,060 there's definitely an agenda going on 1195 01:00:37,710 --> 01:00:34,840 with that right because one thing how 1196 01:00:40,740 --> 01:00:37,720 good is the vaccine against the common 1197 01:00:43,170 --> 01:00:40,750 cold not very good considering that 1198 01:00:45,570 --> 01:00:43,180 there isn't one right because because 1199 01:00:46,790 --> 01:00:45,580 you can't make a vaccine for the common 1200 01:00:49,550 --> 01:00:46,800 cold 1201 01:00:53,330 --> 01:00:49,560 the vaccine for influenza is like 20 1202 01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:53,340 percent effective and it also happens to 1203 01:00:59,360 --> 01:00:56,310 increase the likelihood of getting other 1204 01:01:02,359 --> 01:00:59,370 respiratory viral infections like corona 1205 01:01:05,089 --> 01:01:02,369 virus yes so 1206 01:01:06,759 --> 01:01:05,099 that thing is not going to to solve this 1207 01:01:10,249 --> 01:01:06,769 problem you know with so many big 1208 01:01:12,949 --> 01:01:10,259 there's even some question about how big 1209 01:01:14,749 --> 01:01:12,959 a problem is it in how you know right I 1210 01:01:17,479 --> 01:01:14,759 mean do you really actually need 1211 01:01:19,429 --> 01:01:17,489 anything at all you know early on the 1212 01:01:22,249 --> 01:01:19,439 accounts we were seeing maybe look I 1213 01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:22,259 didn't know was very serious but I think 1214 01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:24,900 that a lot of that was overblown and 1215 01:01:31,339 --> 01:01:27,390 actually result of having not fully 1216 01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:31,349 understood the virus but one of the 1217 01:01:38,589 --> 01:01:34,920 things that you can do is what's called 1218 01:01:42,859 --> 01:01:38,599 a structural resonance energy transfer 1219 01:01:45,729 --> 01:01:42,869 SR ET and this is a pretty well known 1220 01:01:49,069 --> 01:01:45,739 phenomenon pretty well known mechanism 1221 01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:49,079 actually it's how microwaves work you 1222 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:52,049 heat up your food great yeah you know 1223 01:02:00,469 --> 01:01:55,410 the microwaves in your kitchen or making 1224 01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:00,479 a wave link there is at a specific size 1225 01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:03,660 that interacts specifically with water 1226 01:02:12,019 --> 01:02:08,249 molecule and basically that microwave 1227 01:02:15,890 --> 01:02:12,029 photon is converted directly into a 1228 01:02:18,769 --> 01:02:15,900 phonon that's a physical mechanical 1229 01:02:22,249 --> 01:02:18,779 oscillation like a sound wave it's an 1230 01:02:25,130 --> 01:02:22,259 acoustic oscillation so basically you're 1231 01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:25,140 converting the light and the sound but 1232 01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:29,640 that vibratory motion mechanical 1233 01:02:35,689 --> 01:02:32,640 oscillation of the molecule is also what 1234 01:02:38,959 --> 01:02:35,699 we call heat you notice it is molecules 1235 01:02:42,829 --> 01:02:38,969 vibrating very quickly and so you know 1236 01:02:44,460 --> 01:02:42,839 when you directly transfer a photon into 1237 01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:44,470 a photon 1238 01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:47,320 that transfer results in heat and so you 1239 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:49,630 can heat up your food well you can 1240 01:02:56,430 --> 01:02:52,450 adjust that wavelength so in the 1241 01:02:58,170 --> 01:02:56,440 microwave it's tuned to resonate have a 1242 01:03:02,160 --> 01:02:58,180 structural resonance energy transfer 1243 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:02,170 with a water molecule you can change 1244 01:03:08,339 --> 01:03:04,930 that wavelength so there'd be a bigger 1245 01:03:09,870 --> 01:03:08,349 way from them so that it doesn't affect 1246 01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:09,880 water at all there's no structural 1247 01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:12,340 resonance transmission and that's good 1248 01:03:18,839 --> 01:03:15,310 because if there was it'd be extremely 1249 01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:18,849 harmful to the human body right seventy 1250 01:03:22,140 --> 01:03:19,630 percent water 1251 01:03:24,109 --> 01:03:22,150 keep your tape but you make that 1252 01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:24,119 wavelength a little bit larger and 1253 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:27,310 actually at just the right size so that 1254 01:03:32,820 --> 01:03:29,650 it has structural resonance energy 1255 01:03:36,850 --> 01:03:32,830 transfer with something the size of a 1256 01:03:39,550 --> 01:03:36,860 virus it's about 20 to 200 nanometers 1257 01:03:42,190 --> 01:03:39,560 so there is actually kind of a range so 1258 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:42,200 you know there's just millions of 1259 01:03:46,750 --> 01:03:43,250 millions of different kinds of viruses 1260 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:46,760 of different kinds of sizes but you know 1261 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:52,370 each specific virus every very on has an 1262 01:04:00,910 --> 01:03:55,730 exact dimensionality to it and also of 1263 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:00,920 every coronavirus of the coded 19 class 1264 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:04,970 has an exact dimension just you know the 1265 01:04:11,820 --> 01:04:07,610 diameter let's say so you just scale 1266 01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:11,830 your microwave so that it matches that 1267 01:04:15,820 --> 01:04:14,510 dimension that diameter so the 1268 01:04:18,370 --> 01:04:15,830 wavelength is comparable to that 1269 01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:18,380 diameter you have a structural resonance 1270 01:04:24,970 --> 01:04:21,950 energy transfer to the very young only 1271 01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:24,980 to the very young it's it up and you 1272 01:04:30,460 --> 01:04:26,980 have what's called photothermal mices 1273 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:30,470 the fires quickly denatures it 1274 01:04:37,630 --> 01:04:34,130 essentially D structures the capital and 1275 01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:37,640 the membrane burst open and the virus is 1276 01:04:42,310 --> 01:04:40,520 dead you know if those things are kind 1277 01:04:45,970 --> 01:04:42,320 of aligned between what we consider 1278 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:45,980 alive and dead its inactivated kind a 1279 01:04:51,830 --> 01:04:48,330 better term fort 1280 01:04:56,810 --> 01:04:51,840 but you could do that in terms of the 1281 01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:56,820 external environment with minimal side 1282 01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:00,960 effects to a person especially if you 1283 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:02,400 made what's kind of called like a maze 1284 01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:02,850 allure 1285 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:06,240 that's a microwave laser so you get a 1286 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:09,690 collimated beam it is just like laser 1287 01:05:15,470 --> 01:05:12,450 light if you're standing to the right of 1288 01:05:17,420 --> 01:05:15,480 that light beam no lights hitting you or 1289 01:05:19,130 --> 01:05:17,430 you can do that with this microwave and 1290 01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:19,140 just kind of go into a room and just 1291 01:05:24,380 --> 01:05:22,680 completely sterilize it 100% or you know 1292 01:05:27,410 --> 01:05:24,390 if no humans are present just have an 1293 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:27,420 omnidirectional emission and just 1294 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:30,570 sterilize every single potential surface 1295 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:33,690 around just to total take it out put in 1296 01:05:42,590 --> 01:05:39,090 for inside the body you can do much a 1297 01:05:47,410 --> 01:05:42,600 similar thing but you do start to get 1298 01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:47,420 into comes with absorption of the 1299 01:05:54,310 --> 01:05:51,710 microwaves by the extracellular tissue 1300 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:54,320 the interstitial fluids of the body 1301 01:06:01,010 --> 01:05:57,810 which could have some negative impact on 1302 01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:01,020 them but also lower the efficacy of that 1303 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:03,480 for directly treating the party but you 1304 01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:06,890 can change instead of making the 1305 01:06:15,130 --> 01:06:09,900 wavelength match the resonant frequency 1306 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:15,140 of the virus you can also adjust the 1307 01:06:23,330 --> 01:06:19,410 timing of the pulses of the 1308 01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:23,340 electromagnetic wave so you know this is 1309 01:06:28,430 --> 01:06:26,400 frequency so you can change the 1310 01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:28,440 frequency via change the wavelength or 1311 01:06:35,390 --> 01:06:31,470 you can change the frequency by having 1312 01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,400 extremely short pulses and actually like 1313 01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:37,760 when I say extremely short they called 1314 01:06:44,690 --> 01:06:41,280 finto syncing pulses you know so you've 1315 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:44,700 got millisecond microsecond you notice 1316 01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:46,970 the millionths of a second 1317 01:06:53,780 --> 01:06:50,880 and now you get into the femto seconds 1318 01:06:59,120 --> 01:06:53,790 which are billions of times a second 1319 01:07:01,590 --> 01:06:59,130 damn yeah you could set these lasers so 1320 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:01,600 that they're having a specific 1321 01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:05,050 pulse rate frequency pay induces 1322 01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:08,950 photothermal Isis and sit to without 1323 01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:13,660 problems of absorption or having impacts 1324 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:18,460 on the bottom so these are all things 1325 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:23,410 that were exploring and actually gearing 1326 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:25,810 up to develop because you know it's not 1327 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:28,960 just about this particular pandemic 1328 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:32,290 because there's a whole lot of weird 1329 01:07:38,370 --> 01:07:35,410 stuff going on if this and image but you 1330 01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:38,380 know as I had says though natural 1331 01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:41,680 pandemics do occur yeah people get sick 1332 01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:43,750 people get into states of disease and 1333 01:07:48,990 --> 01:07:46,960 healing technologies can apply to much 1334 01:07:51,780 --> 01:07:49,000 more than the current situation yeah 1335 01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:51,790 yeah totally and that's something about 1336 01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:54,310 this is that it's a universal 1337 01:08:00,480 --> 01:07:57,570 application not like a vaccine or drug 1338 01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:00,490 because we just adjust the wavelength 1339 01:08:07,410 --> 01:08:03,670 you just adjust the pulse rate 1340 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:07,420 so that it matches whatever bug it's 1341 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:10,770 causing the problem and you lice the law 1342 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:12,730 it's starting to sound a little bit like 1343 01:08:18,749 --> 01:08:15,250 royal Raymond rife it sounds oh yeah 1344 01:08:20,939 --> 01:08:18,759 well you know he was right you know it 1345 01:08:24,749 --> 01:08:20,949 only took about a hundred years for him 1346 01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,759 to be vindicated because now what he was 1347 01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:27,120 doing is pretty much a part of 1348 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:30,460 mainstream understanding it's like 1349 01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:33,449 absolutely you know using the right 1350 01:08:40,919 --> 01:08:37,920 frequency light even sound you can 1351 01:08:43,890 --> 01:08:40,929 destroy a virus the pathogen even a 1352 01:08:47,999 --> 01:08:43,900 cancer yeah it seems like so much of 1353 01:08:51,630 --> 01:08:48,009 life is based in electrical systems and 1354 01:08:53,519 --> 01:08:51,640 energy and frequency and those are the 1355 01:08:55,709 --> 01:08:53,529 components that aren't really in our 1356 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:55,719 medical system check out the Gates 1357 01:08:59,070 --> 01:08:57,250 Foundation doesn't make money off 1358 01:09:01,459 --> 01:08:59,080 frequency based technologies and they 1359 01:09:06,599 --> 01:09:01,469 might be more inclined because they work 1360 01:09:08,669 --> 01:09:06,609 but man this has been a lot of fun and 1361 01:09:10,590 --> 01:09:08,679 just before we go as we're wrapping this 1362 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:10,600 if I wanted to ask you about torus Tech 1363 01:09:15,450 --> 01:09:12,850 this seems to maybe be the commercial 1364 01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:15,460 side of the resonance Science Foundation 1365 01:09:20,820 --> 01:09:18,310 or at least they're in alignment where 1366 01:09:22,829 --> 01:09:20,830 you know we see proof-of-concept devices 1367 01:09:25,380 --> 01:09:22,839 are being developed based off and it 1368 01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:25,390 seems unified physics what do you find 1369 01:09:30,090 --> 01:09:27,279 most exciting about what's being 1370 01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:30,100 developed at torus Tech what do you 1371 01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:31,870 think people could look forward to 1372 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:35,199 actually purchasing or integrating into 1373 01:09:40,740 --> 01:09:38,290 their own health repertoire or even 1374 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:40,750 energy based kind of stuff but what is 1375 01:09:46,410 --> 01:09:42,850 torus tech working on that you find most 1376 01:09:49,709 --> 01:09:46,420 exciting yeah yeah so the resident 1377 01:09:52,650 --> 01:09:49,719 Science Foundation is the educational 1378 01:09:55,229 --> 01:09:52,660 platform you know it's where we connect 1379 01:09:57,419 --> 01:09:55,239 with the community a scientific 1380 01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:57,429 community the general population you 1381 01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:00,880 know to share the information the 1382 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:02,230 knowledge the research that we're 1383 01:10:09,689 --> 01:10:05,130 working on and even though we have the 1384 01:10:11,860 --> 01:10:09,699 unified Science Academy which measures 1385 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:11,870 that knows how free 1386 01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:13,850 which has you know entire courses 1387 01:10:19,660 --> 01:10:16,910 teaching call effect or graphic unified 1388 01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:19,670 physics hey I even have a course big 1389 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:22,310 questions course which you know extends 1390 01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:25,610 that unified physics into a synthesis in 1391 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:27,280 into the fly science know about 1392 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:31,130 incorporating in the application and the 1393 01:10:36,070 --> 01:10:33,530 biological system and not understanding 1394 01:10:36,970 --> 01:10:36,080 them the biological system but 1395 01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:36,980 tourist-type 1396 01:10:43,540 --> 01:10:39,920 is where actually the research is being 1397 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:43,550 performed and that research has been 1398 01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:46,730 applied in the development of specific 1399 01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:49,100 technologies based on that research so 1400 01:10:56,890 --> 01:10:53,120 it's really it's the or D wing of the 1401 01:11:00,370 --> 01:10:56,900 RSF what started as just more vet 1402 01:11:02,650 --> 01:11:00,380 educational than him but he's been in 1403 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:02,660 the vector since he started you know 1404 01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:04,490 he's been invented suffered 30-plus 1405 01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:08,920 years for me undoubtedly the most 1406 01:11:17,050 --> 01:11:12,040 exciting thing being worked on here is 1407 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:17,060 anti-gravitational technology so you 1408 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:19,850 know I'm I'm a biologist molecular 1409 01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:22,130 biologists pumpkin biologists whatever 1410 01:11:29,230 --> 01:11:25,520 but what gets me probably most excited 1411 01:11:33,150 --> 01:11:29,240 is anti-gravitational science you know 1412 01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:33,160 yeah that's some extremely interesting 1413 01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:37,670 stuff and it's you know what is being 1414 01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:40,910 worked on and developed here that's the 1415 01:11:50,770 --> 01:11:46,270 primary focus is to generate our 1416 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:50,780 technology that acts on the energetic 1417 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:53,930 structure of space and you know this is 1418 01:11:58,260 --> 01:11:56,210 the energetic structure space is 1419 01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:58,270 sometimes also called the quantum vacuum 1420 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:01,280 this is quantum vacuum engineering 1421 01:12:07,570 --> 01:12:04,490 there's also especially historically 1422 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:07,580 known as the ether or the luminiferous 1423 01:12:13,930 --> 01:12:11,570 ether and actually there's a fantastic 1424 01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:13,940 lecture by the Nobel prize-winning 1425 01:12:20,189 --> 01:12:16,640 physicist will check called the 1426 01:12:22,469 --> 01:12:20,199 materiality of vacuum 1427 01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:22,479 my favorite quote from that is when he 1428 01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:26,800 says we are a theory beans because he 1429 01:12:31,580 --> 01:12:28,209 was explaining to a roomful of 1430 01:12:36,629 --> 01:12:31,590 physicists that we are made out of ether 1431 01:12:41,129 --> 01:12:36,639 we are the as is everything 1432 01:12:44,959 --> 01:12:41,139 and the ether is what is producing the 1433 01:12:47,370 --> 01:12:44,969 forces that physical forces of our world 1434 01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:47,380 the dynamics of the ether or what 1435 01:12:51,419 --> 01:12:49,689 produce strong forms the great force 1436 01:12:54,449 --> 01:12:51,429 electromagnetism and most importantly 1437 01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:54,459 well for the research we're doing here 1438 01:13:02,009 --> 01:12:59,199 gravity and so because all four of these 1439 01:13:04,350 --> 01:13:02,019 forces have a single foundation in the 1440 01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:04,360 dynamics of the energetic structure of 1441 01:13:12,029 --> 01:13:09,360 space the geometry of space you can use 1442 01:13:16,839 --> 01:13:12,039 electromagnetism to change the 1443 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:16,849 gravitational properties of an object 1444 01:13:23,459 --> 01:13:20,090 it's actually for the uncoated stein 1445 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:23,469 Zelda Beck effect where you can actually 1446 01:13:32,379 --> 01:13:28,570 generate gravitational waves the passing 1447 01:13:36,339 --> 01:13:32,389 polarized electromagnetic field through 1448 01:13:38,170 --> 01:13:36,349 a strong magnetic field at a particular 1449 01:13:41,620 --> 01:13:38,180 orientation 1450 01:13:45,220 --> 01:13:41,630 so already vacuum engineering has been 1451 01:13:49,260 --> 01:13:45,230 around since the 60s that I particularly 1452 01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:49,270 think where you know you can use 1453 01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:53,030 electromagnetism and magnetics to change 1454 01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:57,170 the geometry of space ie modulate the 1455 01:14:05,470 --> 01:14:00,320 gravitational properties of an object 1456 01:14:09,940 --> 01:14:05,480 and material and so that is the main 1457 01:14:12,910 --> 01:14:09,950 thrust here is to use plasma 1458 01:14:19,450 --> 01:14:12,920 hydrodynamics on strong electromagnetic 1459 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:19,460 fields magnetism to change the structure 1460 01:14:28,290 --> 01:14:23,930 or the geometry of space to change the 1461 01:14:32,410 --> 01:14:28,300 inertial mass of an object and produce 1462 01:14:35,260 --> 01:14:32,420 what is commonly called anti-gravity 1463 01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:35,270 although it's not exactly anti-gravity 1464 01:14:42,010 --> 01:14:38,480 is gravitational control you can just 1465 01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:42,020 change how an object is interacting with 1466 01:14:49,090 --> 01:14:46,910 the gravitational field and produce one 1467 01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:49,100 looks like levitation room basically 1468 01:14:56,290 --> 01:14:53,600 reduce thrust and the same way that you 1469 01:14:58,930 --> 01:14:56,300 do that so here you're tapping the 1470 01:15:02,260 --> 01:14:58,940 energetic structure of space so you're 1471 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:02,270 coupling with you and you're modulating 1472 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:05,330 changing it well the sync technology 1473 01:15:10,690 --> 01:15:07,970 would use to do that you'd also tweak 1474 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:10,700 that technology so that when you couple 1475 01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:12,650 with that energetic structure of space 1476 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:16,880 you could draw energy from it you know 1477 01:15:21,850 --> 01:15:18,610 and so that's free energy technology 1478 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:21,860 right so you know that's another big 1479 01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:24,770 thing we're working on here it actually 1480 01:15:32,050 --> 01:15:28,510 you know the anti grab it ik engine it 1481 01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:32,060 doubles as a free energy device yes I've 1482 01:15:37,810 --> 01:15:33,920 heard that there's a lot of people who 1483 01:15:40,650 --> 01:15:37,820 say these two things are just sides of 1484 01:15:42,910 --> 01:15:40,660 the same coin and it's really the 1485 01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:42,920 foundational understanding of our 1486 01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:45,710 environment that is holding people back 1487 01:15:52,010 --> 01:15:49,760 from having or developing these kind of 1488 01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:52,020 technologies when do you think 1489 01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:55,560 this anti-gravity craft or 1490 01:16:00,620 --> 01:15:57,810 electrogravitic craft is going to be 1491 01:16:07,010 --> 01:16:00,630 ready for at least a public 1492 01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:07,020 demonstration oh that's always difficult 1493 01:16:13,459 --> 01:16:10,800 to predict no more so as that thing 1494 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:13,469 though started been recent times because 1495 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:18,570 we were old quarantine in our houses for 1496 01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:22,010 six weeks you know so we had to find 1497 01:16:27,380 --> 01:16:25,110 clever ways to continue to work on it 1498 01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:27,390 you know without getting in trouble and 1499 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:29,940 causing trouble you know but that 1500 01:16:38,110 --> 01:16:33,690 definitely put up pretty big impediment 1501 01:16:42,740 --> 01:16:38,120 on moving forward but coming from 1502 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:42,750 tourists like certainly a demonstration 1503 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:46,890 of this kind of technology especially in 1504 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:50,570 terms of the free energy aspect it is 1505 01:16:58,970 --> 01:16:55,850 pretty M&E like within a year or two 1506 01:17:03,830 --> 01:16:58,980 probably by next year the ability to 1507 01:17:07,090 --> 01:17:03,840 demonstrate this will be there that's 1508 01:17:11,420 --> 01:17:07,100 amazing yeah you know I'm actually 1509 01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,430 performing experiments right now to 1510 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:14,480 measure what I believe are some of the 1511 01:17:21,380 --> 01:17:18,090 free energy processes occurring with one 1512 01:17:23,630 --> 01:17:21,390 of the technologies it's not necessarily 1513 01:17:26,030 --> 01:17:23,640 accepted even by all the researchers 1514 01:17:28,910 --> 01:17:26,040 here that this is occurring but actually 1515 01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:28,920 by goal and this is there since we've 1516 01:17:34,910 --> 01:17:31,920 got back out of horn to this to actually 1517 01:17:37,940 --> 01:17:34,920 document and measured show one of our 1518 01:17:39,229 --> 01:17:37,950 technologies that is already having its 1519 01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:39,239 effect where it's coupled with the 1520 01:17:46,340 --> 01:17:41,910 quantum vacuum and there is an energy 1521 01:17:49,370 --> 01:17:46,350 transmission because of observed in the 1522 01:17:52,459 --> 01:17:49,380 course of my testing with the technology 1523 01:17:56,930 --> 01:17:52,469 you don't just to characterize it I'm 1524 01:17:59,390 --> 01:17:56,940 now doing it in a systematic way testing 1525 01:18:04,600 --> 01:17:59,400 specifically for that so you know I 1526 01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:04,610 think it won't be very long before 1527 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:09,110 course Tech is having demonstrations you 1528 01:18:14,770 --> 01:18:11,330 know you can put in devices out on the 1529 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:14,780 market yes I love it I love it already 1530 01:18:20,590 --> 01:18:17,090 good talk to a lot of people a lot of 1531 01:18:22,359 --> 01:18:20,600 researchers and inventors who feel that 1532 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:22,369 they're very close to being on the cusp 1533 01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:25,130 and it just doesn't seem like I ever am 1534 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:28,400 really seeing those fully out in the 1535 01:18:34,510 --> 01:18:31,610 open completely verifiable 1536 01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:34,520 demonstrations of either type of device 1537 01:18:38,530 --> 01:18:36,830 but I am a champion in a lot of 1538 01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:38,540 different corners I'm waiting now look 1539 01:18:43,330 --> 01:18:40,369 I'm hoping it happens but we will 1540 01:18:46,750 --> 01:18:43,340 definitely have to talk again then if 1541 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:46,760 this comes to fruition oh yeah totally 1542 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:50,570 uh-huh you know because I think it the 1543 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:52,730 technology is actually there you have a 1544 01:18:57,939 --> 01:18:55,730 lot of different R&D labs you know it's 1545 01:19:02,709 --> 01:18:57,949 just that it's kind of at that phase 1546 01:19:06,010 --> 01:19:02,719 right now where it hasn't quite got to 1547 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:06,020 the you know full application they 1548 01:19:12,290 --> 01:19:09,449 generally this is ready to go 1549 01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:12,300 there's still further developments that 1550 01:19:15,709 --> 01:19:13,679 need to take place to get there and I 1551 01:19:18,049 --> 01:19:15,719 think that's kind of actually where the 1552 01:19:20,629 --> 01:19:18,059 free energy technology community is that 1553 01:19:23,139 --> 01:19:20,639 at a whole show of something further 1554 01:19:26,419 --> 01:19:23,149 along the mother's point in my 1555 01:19:28,729 --> 01:19:26,429 perspective you know that's the cusp it 1556 01:19:30,649 --> 01:19:28,739 you know the little pause before you 1557 01:19:33,799 --> 01:19:30,659 have the big breakthrough when it's out 1558 01:19:38,179 --> 01:19:33,809 and everywhere and I you know I think 1559 01:19:39,739 --> 01:19:38,189 it's very imminent yes well I am hopeful 1560 01:19:42,620 --> 01:19:39,749 you know we need some hope in these 1561 01:19:45,020 --> 01:19:42,630 challenging times now this has been 1562 01:19:47,209 --> 01:19:45,030 really awesome we got through a bunch of 1563 01:19:49,009 --> 01:19:47,219 different topics a lot of technical 1564 01:19:52,819 --> 01:19:49,019 stuff that's a bit over my head but the 1565 01:19:55,250 --> 01:19:52,829 implications are exciting and my mind is 1566 01:19:57,589 --> 01:19:55,260 thoroughly blown is there anything more 1567 01:19:59,629 --> 01:19:57,599 to leave people with maybe tell them 1568 01:20:01,909 --> 01:19:59,639 about the free course available now or 1569 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:01,919 where to find you on social media all 1570 01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:02,610 that good stuff 1571 01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:06,239 oh yeah yeah so I have facebook 1572 01:20:12,830 --> 01:20:09,239 Instagram page and I'm actually pretty 1573 01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:12,840 good about engaging in discourse you 1574 01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:16,110 know if there's a question I often enjoy 1575 01:20:22,759 --> 01:20:18,239 getting to have those conversations own 1576 01:20:25,219 --> 01:20:22,769 and then we have the resonance science 1577 01:20:28,669 --> 01:20:25,229 foundation course which is on unified 1578 01:20:34,669 --> 01:20:28,679 Science Academy available online for 1579 01:20:36,319 --> 01:20:34,679 free I'm not sure if the URL has been 1580 01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:36,329 completely converted yet you know 1581 01:20:42,679 --> 01:20:38,760 because it ages to be a membership 1582 01:20:44,989 --> 01:20:42,689 program now is free but it used to be to 1583 01:20:47,359 --> 01:20:44,999 just type in like the resident Science 1584 01:20:50,359 --> 01:20:47,369 Foundation I know if you google search 1585 01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:50,369 ad it will still take you to the free 1586 01:20:55,009 --> 01:20:53,249 online course right register there and 1587 01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:55,019 then you know there's a forum there 1588 01:20:59,649 --> 01:20:57,780 where I engage in conversations with 1589 01:21:03,560 --> 01:20:59,659 folks know answering questions 1590 01:21:07,509 --> 01:21:03,570 discussing things from DNA engineering 1591 01:21:10,129 --> 01:21:07,519 to free energy so we have a bit of 1592 01:21:15,139 --> 01:21:10,139 classrooms for engagement and learning 1593 01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:15,149 more about this yeah very cool I love 1594 01:21:19,250 --> 01:21:16,800 the stuff you guys are doing over there 1595 01:21:22,219 --> 01:21:19,260 and the holo fractal subreddit does a 1596 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:22,229 great job of trying to follow you guys 1597 01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:23,170 and that's how 1598 01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:25,630 I kind of keep tabs on the cliffnotes of 1599 01:21:30,510 --> 01:21:28,030 what's going on but you got a lot of 1600 01:21:33,689 --> 01:21:30,520 advocates out there you end the seam are 1601 01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:33,699 doing great stuff so it's a real honor 1602 01:21:37,890 --> 01:21:35,710 and a pleasure to talk to you man thanks 1603 01:21:40,290 --> 01:21:37,900 again and keep pushing back against the 1604 01:21:43,410 --> 01:21:40,300 conventional paradigm I wish you luck 1605 01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:43,420 thank you guys yes break inven cavity 1606 01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:51,189 is anyone here a quantum biologist how 1607 01:21:55,540 --> 01:21:52,369 about it guys 1608 01:21:58,330 --> 01:21:55,550 William Brown an important spoke on the 1609 01:22:00,609 --> 01:21:58,340 resonance science wheel I've actually 1610 01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:00,619 had him on my list of guests that I've 1611 01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:03,280 wanted ever since we had Nasim here and 1612 01:22:09,580 --> 01:22:06,560 it was this current situation that 1613 01:22:11,709 --> 01:22:09,590 really got me to prioritize getting them 1614 01:22:13,839 --> 01:22:11,719 on because I think it's important to 1615 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:13,849 keep bringing you guys guests who have 1616 01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,610 different perspectives on viruses on 1617 01:22:21,700 --> 01:22:18,800 what makes us sick and what makes us 1618 01:22:23,709 --> 01:22:21,710 better and despite the range of 1619 01:22:27,550 --> 01:22:23,719 differences some of these guests have 1620 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:27,560 had they all are drastically different 1621 01:22:32,290 --> 01:22:30,050 from the mainstream perspective as well 1622 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:32,300 they are all saying that a vaccine is 1623 01:22:37,180 --> 01:22:34,730 not the answer we have much better 1624 01:22:40,899 --> 01:22:37,190 solutions and they're not nearly as 1625 01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:40,909 risky as Big Pharma's offerings yet our 1626 01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:43,580 guests have had a perspective on viruses 1627 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:46,639 that ranges from there just excretions 1628 01:22:51,339 --> 01:22:48,770 of a toxic cell they are exosomes 1629 01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:51,349 they're not the cause of illness which 1630 01:22:55,390 --> 01:22:53,150 of course is one of the more extreme 1631 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:55,400 opinions and one that William doesn't 1632 01:23:00,220 --> 01:22:57,050 agree with and Dell big tree would be 1633 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:00,230 another who didn't go that far but they 1634 01:23:05,109 --> 01:23:02,449 would still say our thoughts on viruses 1635 01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:05,119 should be more nuanced than the news is 1636 01:23:09,070 --> 01:23:07,040 presenting them they aren't all bad just 1637 01:23:10,810 --> 01:23:09,080 like bacteria we have a viral we 1638 01:23:13,060 --> 01:23:10,820 exchange hundreds of viruses when we 1639 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:13,070 shake hands I mean this isn't exactly 1640 01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:16,250 saying that a virus doesn't make us sick 1641 01:23:21,250 --> 01:23:19,280 but it's definitely a calmer less 1642 01:23:24,580 --> 01:23:21,260 hysterical view right 1643 01:23:28,419 --> 01:23:24,590 I mean Williams said pandemics do happen 1644 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:28,429 but the difference is that it's not just 1645 01:23:32,770 --> 01:23:30,650 a roll of the dice and there's nothing 1646 01:23:35,859 --> 01:23:32,780 you can do shore up your immune system 1647 01:23:37,959 --> 01:23:35,869 build your defenses focus on that it's 1648 01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:37,969 not like the way it's presented where 1649 01:23:43,419 --> 01:23:40,480 you just get shot by a stray bullet and 1650 01:23:47,140 --> 01:23:43,429 that's really enough for me because if 1651 01:23:51,010 --> 01:23:47,150 we have a holistic natural non-invasive 1652 01:23:53,260 --> 01:23:51,020 treatment such as light or frequency 1653 01:23:56,109 --> 01:23:53,270 based treatments the things that were 1654 01:23:59,290 --> 01:23:56,119 presented today then it doesn't really 1655 01:24:01,150 --> 01:23:59,300 matter if you catch the virus or not 1656 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:01,160 we have then other people talking about 1657 01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:04,610 zinc and intravenous vitamin C we have 1658 01:24:10,270 --> 01:24:08,450 the hydroxychloroquine thing whatever 1659 01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:10,280 you make of that but we even have dr. 1660 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:11,510 Rhonda Patrick on the Joe Rogan 1661 01:24:16,420 --> 01:24:14,570 experience talking about vitamin D she's 1662 01:24:18,940 --> 01:24:16,430 been saying that there's data to suggest 1663 01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:18,950 the severity of the virus's impact on 1664 01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:20,960 the body is directly related to the 1665 01:24:25,450 --> 01:24:24,080 vitamin D levels a person has and then 1666 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:25,460 all of a sudden they're saying on the 1667 01:24:30,700 --> 01:24:27,410 news yeah this virus it can't seem to 1668 01:24:33,370 --> 01:24:30,710 survive long and sunlight at all better 1669 01:24:35,950 --> 01:24:33,380 clothes the outdoors right but it's been 1670 01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:35,960 talked about that this virus affects 1671 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:38,480 minorities worse which could be seen as 1672 01:24:44,110 --> 01:24:40,610 a red flag for the argument that it was 1673 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:44,120 engineered but from dr. Rhonda Patrick's 1674 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:45,890 perspective it's about melanin in the 1675 01:24:49,870 --> 01:24:47,930 skin darker skin people need to be out 1676 01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:49,880 in the Sun way more for the sun's rays 1677 01:24:54,430 --> 01:24:52,490 to penetrate deeper and in our modern 1678 01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:54,440 Western culture where nobody's getting 1679 01:24:59,260 --> 01:24:55,760 enough vitamin D through sunlight 1680 01:25:01,510 --> 01:24:59,270 they're getting even less on top of all 1681 01:25:03,820 --> 01:25:01,520 the other factors that affect minority 1682 01:25:06,130 --> 01:25:03,830 communities and their immune systems and 1683 01:25:09,250 --> 01:25:06,140 their diets and even the way they're 1684 01:25:11,170 --> 01:25:09,260 treated within the medical system but I 1685 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:11,180 thought even that perspective that 1686 01:25:17,470 --> 01:25:14,810 vitamin D is a big factor in how bad 1687 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:17,480 this is for people was also worth 1688 01:25:22,570 --> 01:25:19,610 holding up in my head along with all the 1689 01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:22,580 others but the point was just to say 1690 01:25:28,540 --> 01:25:26,000 that when we have these simpler more 1691 01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:28,550 reliable solutions the paranoia about 1692 01:25:33,250 --> 01:25:31,490 the virus should go away whatever level 1693 01:25:34,780 --> 01:25:33,260 you're on I think I got a road that 1694 01:25:37,780 --> 01:25:34,790 leads to the promised land you know what 1695 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:37,790 I'm saying it's similar to cancer where 1696 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:40,250 it's actually a lot less scary when you 1697 01:25:44,020 --> 01:25:42,290 know that there are alternatives to 1698 01:25:46,510 --> 01:25:44,030 chemo that have been proven over and 1699 01:25:48,910 --> 01:25:46,520 over so it doesn't bother me that 1700 01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:48,920 William isn't into the exosome theory I 1701 01:25:52,540 --> 01:25:51,110 want him to be honest and I probably 1702 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:52,550 shouldn't have injected another 1703 01:25:57,250 --> 01:25:54,410 guesswork into the interview as much as 1704 01:25:59,020 --> 01:25:57,260 I did I don't usually do that but we're 1705 01:26:00,100 --> 01:25:59,030 dealing with a special situation here 1706 01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:00,110 and I just want to get everyone's 1707 01:26:04,690 --> 01:26:02,960 opinion about every different angle but 1708 01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:04,700 anyway there's just a lot of different 1709 01:26:11,050 --> 01:26:07,760 ways to look at this thing that all make 1710 01:26:12,609 --> 01:26:11,060 one realize that the reaction to it the 1711 01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:12,619 political reaction the 1712 01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:15,249 economic reaction it's been grossly 1713 01:26:20,770 --> 01:26:18,320 overplayed and I just saw in the local 1714 01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:20,780 news that 40 million people have filed 1715 01:26:26,319 --> 01:26:23,209 for unemployment or in this that is so 1716 01:26:28,419 --> 01:26:26,329 many and it doesn't include the old and 1717 01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:28,429 the young people that don't work but are 1718 01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:31,280 dependent on the working it doesn't 1719 01:26:35,529 --> 01:26:33,199 include people like my buddy who lost 1720 01:26:37,779 --> 01:26:35,539 his job and said [\h__\h] it I'm not gonna 1721 01:26:39,339 --> 01:26:37,789 deal with that terrible website I'm not 1722 01:26:41,409 --> 01:26:39,349 gonna sit on my thumbs waiting for a 1723 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:41,419 cheque to come through this broken and 1724 01:26:46,029 --> 01:26:44,090 bloated system it also doesn't include 1725 01:26:48,250 --> 01:26:46,039 my other buddy who quit his shitty job 1726 01:26:49,779 --> 01:26:48,260 in January before this happened thinking 1727 01:26:50,770 --> 01:26:49,789 he could just go find another one and 1728 01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:50,780 then BOOM 1729 01:26:55,569 --> 01:26:53,510 you can't really and it also wouldn't 1730 01:26:58,750 --> 01:26:55,579 include another friend I know who ended 1731 01:27:00,759 --> 01:26:58,760 up with a 30 percent pay cut when I 1732 01:27:03,069 --> 01:27:00,769 really think about it I know more people 1733 01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:03,079 who took a huge economic hit that aren't 1734 01:27:07,989 --> 01:27:06,320 on unemployment than ones who are and it 1735 01:27:10,689 --> 01:27:07,999 just seems clear that this is another 1736 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:10,699 economic throttling that was 1737 01:27:16,949 --> 01:27:14,570 manufactured a gross control overreach 1738 01:27:19,330 --> 01:27:16,959 that really doesn't seem justified 1739 01:27:21,969 --> 01:27:19,340 whether you think they just jumped on a 1740 01:27:23,859 --> 01:27:21,979 convenient opportunity or made the whole 1741 01:27:26,139 --> 01:27:23,869 thing up doesn't really matter when 1742 01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:26,149 you're looking at the economic situation 1743 01:27:30,909 --> 01:27:28,639 where the mecca nations of the economic 1744 01:27:33,129 --> 01:27:30,919 think tanks that control the levers are 1745 01:27:35,649 --> 01:27:33,139 gonna get away with this kind of thing 1746 01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:35,659 again and the blame will fall on an 1747 01:27:39,669 --> 01:27:37,760 attack from the unpredictable forces of 1748 01:27:42,009 --> 01:27:39,679 nature and the ignorance and 1749 01:27:45,219 --> 01:27:42,019 incompetence of a bloated government a 1750 01:27:49,659 --> 01:27:45,229 tale as old as time but I think they get 1751 01:27:52,089 --> 01:27:49,669 what they want anyway even though I 1752 01:27:54,819 --> 01:27:52,099 think the corona content is the more 1753 01:27:57,009 --> 01:27:54,829 important and obviously most pressing 1754 01:27:59,319 --> 01:27:57,019 right now I knew with William we could 1755 01:28:02,919 --> 01:27:59,329 round it out with genetic engineering 1756 01:28:06,669 --> 01:28:02,929 talk and panspermia which are fun topics 1757 01:28:08,770 --> 01:28:06,679 that are kind of virus adjacent and kind 1758 01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:08,780 of weave us in and out for those who 1759 01:28:13,029 --> 01:28:11,449 have a little virus fatigue even though 1760 01:28:16,330 --> 01:28:13,039 most of that was in the second hour 1761 01:28:19,299 --> 01:28:16,340 either way it felt like a unique blend 1762 01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,309 and an appropriate show for the times I 1763 01:28:24,250 --> 01:28:21,679 hope you agree if you liked the first 1764 01:28:26,509 --> 01:28:24,260 hour please please please sign up for 1765 01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,519 the second I've gotten a lot of great 1766 01:28:30,649 --> 01:28:28,800 feedback from plus people lately who 1767 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:30,659 have had more time to comb over the 1768 01:28:36,859 --> 01:28:33,690 archive I see a lot of new comments on 1769 01:28:38,270 --> 01:28:36,869 old episodes and I've got several years 1770 01:28:40,939 --> 01:28:38,280 of good stuff in there 1771 01:28:43,009 --> 01:28:40,949 why not revisit some older shows or some 1772 01:28:45,709 --> 01:28:43,019 favorite guests but with that second 1773 01:28:48,649 --> 01:28:45,719 hour this time and help relieve a little 1774 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:48,659 stress from myself if you have the 1775 01:28:53,839 --> 01:28:51,650 ability to support the show right now I 1776 01:28:56,509 --> 01:28:53,849 hope it's something you value the higher 1777 01:28:58,459 --> 01:28:56,519 side chats calm in the second hour of 1778 01:29:01,759 --> 01:28:58,469 today's show with William Brown we got 1779 01:29:05,089 --> 01:29:01,769 into the idea of 12 strand DNA and the 1780 01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:05,099 spiritual elements of DNA engineering 1781 01:29:11,149 --> 01:29:08,610 man to not sense their own masters may 1782 01:29:12,979 --> 01:29:11,159 be right in the same old environment we 1783 01:29:15,399 --> 01:29:12,989 talked about raising animal intelligence 1784 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:15,409 levels through a similar process 1785 01:29:21,850 --> 01:29:18,570 regenerating damaged tissue and the 1786 01:29:24,109 --> 01:29:21,860 meridian systems of both land and body 1787 01:29:27,770 --> 01:29:24,119 plus a lot of other good stuff that's 1788 01:29:29,689 --> 01:29:27,780 hard to come by in other places and man 1789 01:29:31,850 --> 01:29:29,699 there are tens of thousands of free 1790 01:29:34,069 --> 01:29:31,860 listeners if I could just convert a few 1791 01:29:35,450 --> 01:29:34,079 more it would really mean a lot but 1792 01:29:39,049 --> 01:29:35,460 don't put yourself in a tight position 1793 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:39,059 I'll live either way but that's the show 1794 01:29:44,810 --> 01:29:42,210 check out resonance science org for more 1795 01:29:47,239 --> 01:29:44,820 of what they're cooking take care of the 1796 01:29:49,759 --> 01:29:47,249 people around you be a calming presence 1797 01:29:52,069 --> 01:29:49,769 in the chaos rather than an aggravating 1798 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:52,079 one shore up your health and seek out 1799 01:29:57,739 --> 01:29:56,010 local healthier food sources and keep 1800 01:29:58,640 --> 01:29:57,749 listening to the higher side chats I'm 1801 01:30:01,220 --> 01:29:58,650 getting out here 1802 01:30:02,750 --> 01:30:01,230 your move panspermia directors cosmic 1803 01:30:09,470 --> 01:30:02,760 terraformers and alien evolution 1804 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:12,930 lucid dreams are so vivid cuz you go to 1805 01:30:18,510 --> 01:30:15,489 bed at 7:00 and your brain comes alive 1806 01:30:21,149 --> 01:30:18,520 cuz your h and nine-to-five you wake up 1807 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:21,159 with a dread and make sure your cats are 1808 01:30:25,950 --> 01:30:23,650 fed did your brain talk to a ghost who 1809 01:30:29,700 --> 01:30:25,960 moved your coffee and toast as you 1810 01:30:32,220 --> 01:30:29,710 listened to the higher side chats you 1811 01:30:35,310 --> 01:30:32,230 get to your desk and your boss says it's 1812 01:30:37,770 --> 01:30:35,320 a mess and your soul slowly goes to a 1813 01:30:42,319 --> 01:30:37,780 place where nothing grows when you think 1814 01:30:45,290 --> 01:30:42,329 he's not around you insert a SETI sound 1815 01:30:49,790 --> 01:30:45,300 the OEM says turn it down and you say 1816 01:30:52,729 --> 01:30:49,800 it's just the higher side chats oh do 1817 01:30:57,649 --> 01:30:52,739 you think you'd be invited to Bohemian 1818 01:31:01,280 --> 01:30:57,659 Grove to a Bilderberg Club oh do you 1819 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:01,290 think you'd be invited by rust out to a 1820 01:31:09,530 --> 01:31:07,050 party on a submarine diving 1821 01:31:12,590 --> 01:31:09,540 to the center of the 1822 01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:12,600 to the Marianas Trench your teeth begin 1823 01:31:20,750 --> 01:31:16,800 to clench from the sulphureus stench the 1824 01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:20,760 mask you give in doesn't fit because 1825 01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:28,050 starting today you'll make plans to get 1826 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:30,610 away there's no one to hold you down and 1827 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:33,370 the what if start to drown then you wake 1828 01:31:39,090 --> 01:31:36,250 to the glare of a co fluorescent stare 1829 01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:39,100 and the light winks at you cuz its life 1830 01:31:45,300 --> 01:31:41,440 is almost through but it's holding gone 1831 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:45,310 to quit time just like you it's time for